Did YOU see the 15 pack? Was it on a Diamond 9ft? Was that against the 10 ball ghost....with no racking AID? That means racking with a triangle, NO magic racks or the use of any other racking aid.
No, the player determines their competitiveness when playing against other players. Fargo keeps track of the games played in order to kind of rate how the player would match up against other player BEFORE the play....in the efforts to be.able to make better judgments when it comes to side betting on the matches.....I clearly understand how the Fargo rating system works.
I'm more interested in FINDING the BEST skilled players on the planet every year to fill in the 64 player field to have a world championship tournament made up of the most PROBABLE best players in the world. After doing so, THEN the Fargo rating system can take over to keep track of said players.
Is that really so hard to understand?
Well, it's been fun playing with you guys, but I have to go deliver a pool table, haven't had much sleep since Saturday morning, my first wife and mother of my 2 oldest daughters passed away Saturday night....so now that's 3 deaths I've had to deal with in the last 2 years, my son, my mom, now my wife.
I think you're too hung up on the "skill" of a player. How do we even properly define skill? If it's not directly correlated with competitive results then it's pointless.
What do you think would be a more effective way of figuring out who the best player was among any ten random players? Would it be having them perform a skills test or would it be locking them in a room for a year (or years) and see who came out on top in the end? It seems you think it's the skills test. I do not. Of course we can't lock anybody into a room for years on end but if we accumulate enough data we can imitate exactly that. This is essentially what Fargo Rate does. The predicative nature of Fargo Rate is what's used to drive the algorithm. It's not the end result or the goal of the system. (This is just my impression of the system for the record so don't take my word for anything regarding Fargo Rate).
I'm surprised there are so many skeptics of this system. I think it's the coolest thing that has happened in pool in....well....maybe forever.
ONE of my concerns about any kind of rating system on
players to better match them up for the purpose of betting on them is....how do you
prevent a player from working with a lesser rated player, whom according to the Fargo
rating system....is NOT suppose to win....and therefore the players place a sizeable bet
on the weaker player....he then wins by a game.....and they split the winnings![]()
As I say around here quite a bit anymore, Utopia isn't one of the options.
You place your bets, you takes your chances.
Jeff Livingston
I sent you a PM, did you get it?
Yes.
You've addressed a lot of it in this thread, so I was absorbing that first, and then I saw this one about your ex and thought I'd hold off calling you for a few.
Jeff Livingston
Besides that, a good conversation might keep me awake, only been able to sleep about 4 hours since Saturday morning anyway.
Hi Mile, sorry if you answered my question already but if you did I must have missed it. It was I regards to Fargo handicapping results from the open. As you and I discussed previously , Fargo uses games on the wire as opposed to a ball spot system. So taking that into consideration, how did all of the open ,at he's turn out? To be clear and only as an example with arbitrary #'s - so playa A was rated 794 in Fargo and playa B was a 735. I don't know exactly how it works but let's say that would have equated to playa B getting 3 games on the wire going to 11. So how did the Fargo handicapping actually turn out? IE; the spot for playa B was 3 games but actual result from the match was A wins 11-5. Do you see what I'm getting at? I know right now you're only using Fargo right now for say league handicapping ( although I'm sure you are trying to ultimately position yourself so it can and will be used to lay odds ) - which is really why I am interested in the results and asking the question. THANKS for any info!
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Anyone can figure this out, it just takes work. Go to:
http://fairmatch.fargorate.com
and put in the race, and each player's rating, for the predicted outcome. Then compare that to the scores that are posted on the bracket. Do this for each match, and see how close things were for your liking
Here is a list of the fargo ratings right BEFORE the US Open. Use these numbers:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=437279
Good luck![]()
Anyone can figure this out, it just takes work. Go to:
http://fairmatch.fargorate.com
and put in the race, and each player's rating, for the predicted outcome. Then compare that to the scores that are posted on the bracket. Do this for each match, and see how close things were for your liking
Here is a list of the fargo ratings right BEFORE the US Open. Use these numbers:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=437279
Good luck![]()
I'm still trying to figure out how Fargo Rate is going to get more added money into tournaments to draw in the better players, unless everyone is just expecting the players to just pay even higher entry fees, while the added amount still suffers.
Anyone can figure this out, it just takes work. Go to:
http://fairmatch.fargorate.com
and put in the race, and each player's rating, for the predicted outcome. Then compare that to the scores that are posted on the bracket. Do this for each match, and see how close things were for your liking
Here is a list of the fargo ratings right BEFORE the US Open. Use these numbers:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=437279
Good luck![]()
Right now Fargorate is simply a very robust ranking list. What, if any, long term plans for it, Mike has been mum about since day 1.
I will say, for me, its helped to unite the sport. We now know who all the top players are, even when they never play on US soil. Its fun to follow the list, imo.