World Straight Pool Updates from New Jersey

I almost don't want to post this, as I do not want to come across as making a sexist statement, but there is alot of evidence explaining differences. Evolutionary Psychologists have alot of theories on why our genetic inheritance has taken the route it has. However for now I will just list the tested/accepted areas of strength in each sex. From this you can see why a male might be considered to have a genetic/sex advantage in a game like pool.

Problem Solving Tasks Favoring Men:
- Spatial Tasks
-Target Directed Motor Skills
-Disembedding Tests
-Mathematical reasoning


Problem Solving Tasks Favoring Women:
-Perceptual Speed
-Displaced Objects
-Verbal Fluency
-Precision manual tasks
-Mathematical calculation



ShootingArts said:
Scott,

Nothing to do with my ego, way too many years of track record to argue against. As I said in my first post, I genuinely don't understand why men are or should be better at pool particularly at this point when the top women have been honing their skills for decades. However the fact remains that as wholes men are substantially better than women at pool.

There is some scientific backing for this but I don't think it is significant enough to justify the spread. I also don't think that the lack of women players is still a valid explanation. Perhaps it is a combination of a lot of minor factors. I don't claim to know and I have argued in the past that women should be as good as men playing pool. They are not and I don't see this changing in the foreseeable future. That means it takes a truly exceptional woman player to win a major men's event. That may not be PC when we try to pretend that all people are equal in all things but it is fact borne out by way too many years of mixed play to seriously consider differently.

I believe women should be equal. However I don't argue with sign posts and I don't argue with all of the past history of pool either.

Hu
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Problem Solving Tasks Favoring Men:
- Spatial Tasks
-Target Directed Motor Skills
-Disembedding Tests
-Mathematical reasoning


Problem Solving Tasks Favoring Women:-Perceptual Speed
-Displaced Objects
-Verbal Fluency
-Precision manual tasks
-Mathematical calculation[/QUOTE]

can i get some references here? not trying to argue or nitpick....but thats some heavy stuff there w/o back up. where are you getting this from? empirical journals? "the bell curve?"

some other things science/psychology have touted in the past:

-eugenics
-determining character by examining bumps on the head (phrenology)
-josef mengele
-the tuskeegee experiments

science/psych is NOT always right. anyone with a scientific/psych background will be the first to tell you that.

GO JASMIN.

justin.
 
JusticeNJ said:
science/psych is NOT always right. anyone with a scientific/psych background will be the first to tell you that.



justin.
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I totally agree with you that Psychology has been wrong. However in regard to what I posted it is based on empirical testing and is universally published in all Psychology/Biology textbooks that deal with differences in gender or brain development.
 
Very Good Point!

Neil said:
Why are men better? Look who they play on a regular basis. Then look at who the women play on a regular basis. There's your answer.

When Allison came over, she completely dominated womens pool. The women answered back, and while still at the top, she doesn't dominate as much anymore. The women raised their level of play.

Look at Jasmine- she plays guys a lot, and look at her game. She is beating top male players! Women can do it, they just have to get in their with the top guys to raise their level more. There's an old saying- you only play as good as your competition. I think it fits with the women.

Granted, the percentage of womens players is way lower. So you will naturally have fewer at the top. But when they really start challenging themselves with the guys, you will see a few right up there on a regular basis.
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Yes Neil, I think you have a very good point.
Personally, I play stronger in mens tournaments.
They push my level of play.
Of course, there are some very good women players out there.
Hopefully there will be more in the future.
The more there are, the level of play will definatley go up.
 
Saggy said:
I totally agree with you that Psychology has been wrong. However in regard to what I posted it is based on empirical testing and is universally published in all Psychology/Biology textbooks that deal with differences in gender or brain development.
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i guess i missed those chapters. in the interest of keeping the thread on track, PM me with the journals if you can. if from a textbook, the journals will be cited in the reference section. i'm interested from what publications these came from, and whether or not its universally published. biopsych and evolutionary psych are tricky areas, and rife with controversy in the field, and as such should be approached with caution. i certainly don't recall that from neuropsych, or any psych class for that matter. i'm interested. thanks.

edited to add: i was trying to say the testing can be wrong, the way the results can be interpreted can be wrong. its not just the concept, but the whole process that can go sour. it happens all the time. thats why it takes 2098304982 submissions to get an article published.

justin.
 
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Any word yet on the Jasmin match with Django would love to see her win the whole thing. and in my personal opinion when shes on shes better than any female in the world. just my .02
 
Does anyone know if this match is going on now or are we all just sitting here yanking our cranks? Johnnyt
 
No updates?

Myra, is Johan at the venue? Perhaps he can send you a text or two? Guess he is watching the othe semifinal, to prepare Niels for the final?!
 
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