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The commentators are irritating! They are the ones doing the commentary on the Guinness tour and here they are again. They absolutely have no idea about pool. Funny they even question the decision of the players.
 
Solartje said:
stats that say something or nothing.

In the last 64:
there where:
American players = 6
Eurotour players = 27
philipe players = 7
asian players = 19
rest =5

in the last 32 :
American players = 3
Eurotour players = 12
philipe players = 6
asian players = 9
rest =2

Is europe the continent with the most top poolplayers?
Is the eurotour the hardest tour to win?
Are the philipinos the best poolplayingcountry?
do these stats reflec the real situation or do you disagree?

my semi's prediction: shane, wu, peach and ralf ;)

Phi's are asian's. That makes 15 asian's vs 12 euro. Tpe and Phi best pool countries, asian's best overall player's. Like he said you can say it or read it different ways.
 
For a much accurate analyze here is the initial repartition of the spots between the five continents :

Asia 61 spots

Europe 43 spots

North and South America 17 (USA 10, Canada 3 and South America 4 spots)

Oceania 4spots

Africa 3 spots
 
billbOK said:
For a much accurate analyze here is the initial repartition of the spots between the five continents :

Asia 61 spots

Europe 43 spots

North and South America 17 (USA 10, Canada 3 and South America 4 spots)

Oceania 4spots

Africa 3 spots

Based on this, you could make a good case for the Oceania 4 people by a percent of players reaching the current stage.
 
miko said:
The commentators are irritating! They are the ones doing the commentary on the Guinness tour and here they are again. They absolutely have no idea about pool. Funny they even question the decision of the players.

I noticed that eversince those two started commentating on pool matches. seems there isn't any change as to their pool knowledge.

those two are merely watching and say when the players made or miss a shot. neither one made a real analysis to the pool matches. I dunno, but seems to me that ESPN is just wasting their money on people who can't do the job.
 
Ooch, hard prediction...

My guess:

Semifinal 1
Chia Ching Wu vs Ralf Souquet

Semifinal 2
Niels Feijen vs Jeffrey De Luna

Final
Chia Ching Wu vs Jeffrey De Luna

Winner
Chia Ching Wu

I have earlier said that I think Niels Feijen will win, but I just changed my mind :D I can't decide who I think will win of Jeffrey or Chia Ching, so while I am hoping for Jeffrey De Luna in that possible match-up, I believe Chia Ching is just a tad better than him... Time will show
 
Solartje said:
stats that say something or nothing.

In the last 64:
there where:
American players = 6
Eurotour players = 27
philipe players = 7
asian players = 19
rest =5

in the last 32 :
American players = 3
Eurotour players = 12
philipe players = 6
asian players = 9
rest =2

Is europe the continent with the most top poolplayers?
Is the eurotour the hardest tour to win?
Are the philipinos the best poolplayingcountry?
do these stats reflec the real situation or do you disagree?

my semi's prediction: shane, wu, peach and ralf ;)



This tournament is not a good gauge for the Filipino players, specially without Efren,
Busti, Alex Pagulayan, Ronnie Alcano, Roberto Gomez and Dennis Orcullo and probably
the next 10 best players on the list while almost everybody is well represented.
 
Here are the match-ups for the last 32:


Van Boening, Shane USA vs. Wilkie, Shaun USA

Muratore, Bruno ITA vs Chia-Ching, Wu TPE

Peach, Daryl GBR vs. Gray, Mark GBR

Pin-Yi, Ko TPE vs. Immonen, Mika FIN

Haitao, Liu CHN vs. Edey, Tyler CAN

Foldes, Vilmos HUN vs. Souquet, Ralf GER

Furuta, Kazuo JPN vs. Pupul, Demosthenes PHI

Didal, Leonardo PHI vs. Ching-Sun, Yang TPE

Kawabata, Satoshi JPN vs. Hijikata, Hayato JPN

Appleton, Darren GBR vs. Ryu, Seung-Woo KOR

De Luna, Jeff PHI vs. Che-Wei, Fu TPE

Jung-Lin, Chang TPE vs. Williams, Charles USA

Manalo, Marlon PHI vs. Arpilleda, Victor PHI

Feijen, Niels NED vs. Alcaide, David ESP

Chamat, Marcus SWE vs. van den Berg, Nick DEN

Alwi, Dodong INA vs. Banares, Jerico PHI
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Ooch, hard prediction...

My guess:

Semifinal 1
Chia Ching Wu vs Ralf Souquet

Semifinal 2
Niels Feijen vs Jeffrey De Luna

Final
Chia Ching Wu vs Jeffrey De Luna

Winner
Chia Ching Wu

I have earlier said that I think Niels Feijen will win, but I just changed my mind :D I can't decide who I think will win of Jeffrey or Chia Ching, so while I am hoping for Jeffrey De Luna in that possible match-up, I believe Chia Ching is just a tad better than him... Time will show



I beg to disagree Roy, although I wouldn't mind being prove wrong about Jeff De Luna. Jeff lacks consistency from his game, although his monstrous break is a very big plus for him.
 
Two Filipinos Barge into Last 32


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In Western history and culture, Demosthenes is celebrated as a great orator
from the ancient world.

In the ongoing World Ten Ball Championship in Manila, Demosthenes Pulpul of
the Philippines is making a name for himself as a giant killer of big-time players
in Asia and Europe.

Fresh from his conquest of Asia Money Game King Yang Ching-Shun last
Tuesday, the 23-year-old pride of Cagayan de Oro outlasted crowd favorite
Jasmin Ouschan of Austria, 9-8, and capped a thrilling finish for the Filipinos'
campaign in the fourth day of this event Thursday at the Philippine
International Convention Center.

Barely getting a sleep because of excitement of playing in his first last 64
stage of a world pool event - and being watched by millions from all parts of
the globe on television - Pulpul didn't let himself get distracted by his rival's
charm and skills.

But he needed some sort of a miracle to get things done. He asked for Divine
Intervention and his prayers were answered.

Ouschan, the top-ranked lady player of the World Pool Association, missed a
potential game winner - the orange ball 5 in the corner - in the 17th rack..
Getting a new lease in life, Pulpul didn't waste the opportunity and sank the
remaining five balls.

"I was excited because this is my first time to be seen on worldwide TV," he
said after the match. "It was also my first time to play in the last 64 in a world
championship."

Asked whether he was distracted by the pretty Austrian, Pulpul gave an
honest answer. "She's really pretty. There's nothing we can do about
that."

Pulpul victory, coupled with Leonardo Didal's 9-5 win over Zhang Shu Chun,
means that two Filipinos who played in the qualifiers last week at the Star
Billiards Center will go into the Final 32 of the WTBC.

In other early matches Thursday, top seeded players continued their march in
the tournament. Playing with pain or any sort of sickness, double world
champion Ralf Souquet and reigning world 9-ball titlist Daryl Peach moved into
the round of 32.

Peach, who had a bout with flu, subdued Filipino Arnel Bautista, 9-4.
Souquet, who was playing while feeling some stomach pain, dumped Imran
Majid of Great Britain, 9-5.

"I feel a lot better now with my game," said Peach. ?I made some big shots
out there and I played more cautious, especially now that I'm against a Filipino
player who is also known as a giant killer."

Wu, who has a chance to become the first triple world champion, ripped
American Stevie Moore to join his buddy and former classmate Ko Pin-Yi.
Ko advanced to the next round after demolishing Ruslan Chinahov, 9-2.

"I'm so excited about my chances," said Wu thru his interpreter Steven Lin.
"The first time I joined the World 9-ball and World 8-ball, I won it immediately.
Now, I have a pretty good chance in the World Ten Ball. I feel happy as well
for my former classmate Ko, who?s been given more exposure and
recognition."

Also advancing to the round of 32 of this event were Shane Van Boening and
Shaun Wilkie of the United States, Bruno Muratore of Italy, Mark Gray of
Great Britain, Mika Immonen of Finland, Liu Haitao of China, Tyler Edey of
Canada, Vilmos Foldes of Hungary, Kazuo Furuta of Japan and Yang Ching-
Shun of Chinese Taipei.
 
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I have been going for the past three days and the most impressive player has been Shane Van Boening. He played Drago who was also playing good. The match was close 4-3 Shane, Drago scratched after making the ten on a combo and that was it Shane shut him out, one mistake against him and he pulls away!! What a break too controlled but strong have seen him make 3 golden breaks. For me he is the guy to beat maybe only Wu is as strong as him. But only saw a couple racks from Wu.

My two dark horses are Mark Grey and Jeff De Luna.

De Luna showed tremendous heart and nerves of steele. Down 8-5 race to nine against Sander Tot (who looks like Chris Farley) he ran out 3 of 4 racks to take it playing very aggressive. He also toned down his break and this gave him much better results. I think he likes too use the strong break at the start of matches to try and intimidate lesser caliber players. But he can adjust. He is sporting the hair-do of a troll doll by the way.

Manalo is playing well and is winning easy but have yet to see anything really special out of him.

Most of the Filipino contingent lack the experience and it really shows Pulpul is far from being "this years Gomez" and was lucky to beat Jasmin. He was very tight at the table and kept second guessing himself and the kid Banares dogged several shots in his hill-hill match and was lucky the balls rolled safe each time.

However, all but one Filipino advanced to the round of 32. So that says alot for the kind of talent in the country.
 
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chickentony said:
I have been going for the past three days and the most impressive player has been Shane Van Boening. He played Drago who was also playing good. The match was close 4-3 Shane, Drago scratched after making the ten on a combo and that was it Shane shut him out, one mistake against him and he pulls away!! What a break too controlled but strong have seen him make 3 golden breaks. For me he is the guy to beat maybe only Wu is as strong as him. But only saw a couple racks from Wu.

My two dark horses are Mark Grey and Jeff De Luna.

De Luna showed tremendous heart and nerves of steele. Down 8-5 race to nine against Sander Tot (who looks like Chris Farley) he ran out 3 of 4 racks to take it playing very aggressive. He also toned down his break and this gave him much better results. I think he likes too use the strong break at the start of matches to try and intimidate lesser caliber players. But he can adjust. He is sporting the hair-do of a troll doll by the way.

Manalo is playing well and is winning easy but have yet to see anything really special out of him.

Most of the Filipino contingent lack the experience and it really shows Pulpul is far from being "this years Gomez" and was lucky to beat Jasmin. He was very tight at the table and kept second guessing himself and the kid Banares dogged several shots in his hill-hill match and was lucky the balls rolled safe each time.

However, all but one Filipino advanced to the round of 32. So that says alot for the kind of talent in the country.


Thnx for the insights and your pics Tony!
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Keep em coming and I hope our thread starter shows up pretty soon too!
 
Lots of talk of Shane in this event (for good reason). Just wanted to send out a huge congratulations to one of those other 2 americans, Shaun Wilkie. Not well known but playing well. He gets to match up with Shane in the next round. They last played in Valley Forge earlier this year with a couple of competitive matches. Shaun won the hot seat but Shane came back to take the title in the final. I'm guessing that Shane will remember that and come out firing on all cylinders. We'll see if Shaun can "get some"!

Shaun was the 2007 Tiger Pool Tour player of the year and now he's in the final 32 World 10 ball open! See tour results and lots of pictures here: http://www.planet-pool.com/showplayer.php?451

Andy
 
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CrownCityCorey said:
Jay,

What's up with our West Coast US players (Oscar D., Ernesto D. (Mexico), Louis U., and Max E.)? It looks to me like Ernesto, representing Mexico, is the only one to advance to the 64 board. Ernesto certainly does have the most experience in international competition (probably more that the other 3 combined).

I am a little surprised, especially with Max, as they have all been playing so well lately. It was Louis first trip to Asia (I think) and maybe Oscar's 2nd - so, I can understand them perhaps not making the adjustment with the time change.

Any insight?

Yeah, TOUGH competiton!
 
Fatboy said:
Louie told me it was his first trip (i think) I'm not sure what day he arrived but I think he arrived when Archer did-late Sunday nite, which is bad planning, Jay told me Johnny was jet lagged and not happy the first nite, he was up 5-3 and lost 9-5, then he had to play Max which sucks because the USA lost a player there automatically. Johnny beat Max, Jay said before they played that Max looked good and had a real good chance to win. I dont know about anyone else-I spoke jay 2 times in the past 2 days.

Shane did it the right way-he went over earily and got in action everyday, he perpaired the right way, considering what the payday is anyone not going over earily is just bad planning. Why anyone who is a contender in that tournment should go over earily, thats the best use of time, action and getting rid of the jet lag puts you in a spot to win, getting there 12 hours before your first match is suicide, who can fade that????

All true here. Coming from the USA, you need minimum four days advance time to adjust. We learned this from Rempe years ago. He was the first to say go four days early to Asia, but only two days early to Europe is sufficient.
 
Too bad you can't get the feed for the filipno TV commentary. Jerry Forsyth is working with two local guys (Bob Guerrero and Biboy Moriano). They are head and shoulders above the two guys commentating from Singapore of all places. Yes, you heard me right, that ESPN commentary is being done by two guys watching the matches on monitors hundreds of miles away in a studio.

Jerry and his second are right here in the arena. They all know their stuff!
 
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