Hey Lyn, are you and Dave grau playing turning stone next week?
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Hey Lyn, are you and Dave grau playing turning stone next week?
I did not mean to imply that they were playing with a red circle ball.
I was only using that as a comparison since it too is made of a different phenolic.
I would not say that the red circle plays easier except when it comes to drawing the ball.
I think it would be more accurate to say that it plays differently.
Well I call it minor because I'm not as easily offended as are most people in our society today. I read through the thread and I thought it was safe to assume that this particular post wasn't directed at me. I figured it was directed at the person whose posts Shawn deleted.
I can only imagine the frustration professional pool players must face. It's easy for all of us to just tell them to give up the game they have been playing their ENTIRE lives and get a 9-5 job. That very statement has probably been written by me at some point on here. But how easy would that really be for the top tier players? They have spent a great majority of their lives leaning out over those tables and whacking balls into pockets. What kind of person would actually chime in on a thread like that and tell someone to "just go and get a job.", especially when they don’t even really know them?
When pro players hear these sorts of things I'm not surprised when they lash out. It’s sort of become the common rebuttal out of us working stiffs.
And of course if Tiger Woods or Lebron James said something even remotely controversial it would get so blown out of proportion that we wouldn't ever hear the end of it. That's the nature of the media world we live in nowadays. They want everybody to get outraged about everything because that keeps us viewing, reading, and listening. That doesn't mean we have to get outraged about everything someone says.
Actually, one of the cool things about the pool world is the pros are approachable because it's not a big time sport. It's much more of a cult following type of thing and that’s not all bad from my point of view.
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I think Shawn should reconsider his posting regarding parasites with 4 year degrees and put up an apology. I am sure Shawn's posting was in the heat of the moment and after reflecting on it a bit he probably did not mean what he said and wishes maybe he had not said it in the first place.
Fact is there are very few people that can make a living playing pool let alone support a family as a professional pool player. I do commend Shawn for continuing to pursue his dreams as a professional pool player knowing the downside of his chosen occupation.
I know Shawn a little from his playing in Ohio and he is a good guy and he genuinely cares about the sport of billiards.
I have never played with the Cyclops balls so I could never comment on the playability or flaws. Point being everyone was playing with the same set of billiard balls so it should not matter.
In reality I'm sure Shawn had a bad day and was just venting his frustrations. It's too bad he decided to do it publically, I don't think that was the best way to vent his frustrations.
I'm sure the Cyclops balls had nothing to do with it but just a bad shot or shots by Shawn.
I can't begin to tell everyone how many time's I've watched and heard a professional player make an excuse after they missed a shot. It's hardly ever their fault always a skid, equipment , or some other reason it happened.
I'm sure the center of the pocket never moved on Shawn :smile:.
Just my 2 cents on the issue.
Fact is there are very few people that can make a living playing pool let alone support a family as a professional pool player. I do commend Shawn for continuing to pursue his dreams as a professional pool player knowing the downside of his chosen occupation.
I know Shawn a little from his playing in Ohio and he is a good guy and he genuinely cares about the sport of billiards.
I have never played with the Cyclops balls so I could never comment on the playability or flaws. Point being everyone was playing with the same set of billiard balls so it should not matter.
In reality I'm sure Shawn had a bad day and was just venting his frustrations. It's too bad he decided to do it publically, I don't think that was the best way to vent his frustrations.
I'm sure the Cyclops balls had nothing to do with it but just a bad shot or shots by Shawn.
I can't begin to tell everyone how many time's I've watched and heard a professional player make an excuse after they missed a shot. It's hardly ever their fault always a skid, equipment , or some other reason it happened.
I'm sure the center of the pocket never moved on Shawn :smile:.
Just my 2 cents on the issue.
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I don't usually care what people say but the parasite comment really got me going (as you can tell.) For a "professional" pool player to call a nine-to-fiver a parasite is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black:
I've played with the cyclops balls at one of our local bars here. I didn't really notice any rolling off of the cue ball but I've heard it said that is has done that there. I just didn't notice it in all the games I played. I don't doubt there is some merit to the complaints if it's said by so many. I prefer the super aramith pro sets that were standard and think they should have remained so with cyclops being a choice or possible upgrade? Not sure they are. I think when you have a great table and a great ball set that is possibly the best combination in the history of the game then I don't see the reason to try to improve upon it. Sure, make more products available to your customers but why change a great thing? Again, I didn't notice an issue and wasn't bothered by the colors but certainly they aren't my preference!
The larger issue is one of this being yet another example of why professional pool isn't growing or successful.
Is Mr. Putnam entitled to his opinions, and to be able to "blow off steam", sure...of course. That doesn't mean you do so in a very public manner.
Before the "free speech" folks rain down upon me, remember that while we all enjoy freedom of speech in this country, that freedom doesn't protect you from the consequences of how you use it.
You never see or hear Michael Jordan, or Tiger Woods, or the large percentage of any "professional" athlete make public disparaging remarks. Certainly not about an industry sponsor. They protect their image and their brand.
Its a shame more "professional" pool players dont recognize this. Notice that Shane does...
While I don't disagree with your sentiments completely, I will say that you hear stupid statements by athletes in major sports all the time. I also don't buy into this theory that professional pool is in the state that it's in mainly because of the players. Sure they have played a part in it but I think it's a relatively small part. There are so many reasons that professional pool is in the state that it's in, to constantly point the finger at the players isn't fair. If we want to paint with a broad brush we could say that for the most part pool players in Europe conduct themselves in a "professional" manner but it's not like pool is thriving in Europe either. So I don't really think it's the players conduct that is holding the game back.
Shawn Putnam said:
I do not believe Shawn was calling everyone who works a 9-5 with a college degree a parasite, just those who criticize the pros for wanting ideal conditions and better money.
WOAH, WOAH, WOOOOOAAH!! There is no room for facts or the exact quote on the internet, nor AZ. Please delete this post immediately so we may go back to heresay.
He barely played last year "cause" he couldn't make Mosconi cup. What did he do then? Sit at home, waiting for someone to support him?
He won't play in any events this year that have cyclop balls, sounds like a guy that is constantly looking for an excuse NOT TO WORK! Who gives a $&(t, let him starve.
Guess what big shot, all those working parasites with degrees are gonna eat, have a roof over their heads and maybe, just maybe, buy a PPV that you won't be in. You're only hurting yourself, and I hope the taxpayer parasites aren't supporting your lazy @$$!
GET A JOB!!!!
Btw, almost nobody's "job" is ideal, get over yourself.
He won't play in any events this year that have cyclop balls, sounds like a guy that is constantly looking for an excuse NOT TO WORK! Who gives a $&(t, let him starve.
Guess what big shot, all those working parasites with degrees are gonna eat, have a roof over their heads and maybe, just maybe, buy a PPV that you won't be in. You're only hurting yourself, and I hope the taxpayer parasites aren't supporting your lazy @$$!
GET A JOB!!!!
Btw, almost nobody's "job" is ideal, get over yourself.
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Well, Shawn did type the word Parasite a couple of times. Obviously used in the wrong context.
If I were reading that, which I did, I would think that he was calling me a Parasite.
Thats cool cause maybe myself and the rest of the Parasites on AZ will remember that, the next time that a Professional Pool Player starts a Thread begging for donations.
He doesn't know what he is talking about. There are thousands of people/ jobs out there that are under funded, don't have the proper equipment and tools to do the job properly but 100% results are expected of them.
Like trying to fix a vehicle with a crescent wrench and a couple of screw drivers.
If I were reading that, which I did, I would think that he was calling me a Parasite.
Thats cool cause maybe myself and the rest of the Parasites on AZ will remember that, the next time that a Professional Pool Player starts a Thread begging for donations.
He doesn't know what he is talking about. There are thousands of people/ jobs out there that are under funded, don't have the proper equipment and tools to do the job properly but 100% results are expected of them.
Like trying to fix a vehicle with a crescent wrench and a couple of screw drivers.
You guys are all so sensitive it cracks me up.
There were over a hundred comments in that thread. The "parasite" comment Shawn made was stupid but lighten up already. Do you REALLY think that Shawn thinks EVERY person that works a 9-5 job is a parasite? I'm going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
People that get offended by stupid comments offend me.
There were over a hundred comments in that thread. The "parasite" comment Shawn made was stupid but lighten up already. Do you REALLY think that Shawn thinks EVERY person that works a 9-5 job is a parasite? I'm going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
People that get offended by stupid comments offend me.
I don't think it is the balls as a set that people don't like, as posted, I think it is the CB that is the problem.
This whole thread has me smiling.
At the DCC Big Foot 10 ball challenge I was watching the Earl play in a match. He was shooting the 5, not an easy pot and made more difficult by what it would take to get to the 6 ball; it would take some stroke. Unfortunately, I had become a little confused by the colors and mistakenly thought the 7 ball was the 6 ball. Earl made the 5 like it had eyes, came off two rails and settled in with perfect shape on the 7 ball which I still thought of as being the 6. I turned to my wife and said, ‘Wow, some shot!’ Earl, moving as Earl always does, came around the table, saw his shape on the 7, heard my comment, and muttered something about fans who didn’t know what they were talking about as he looked daggers at me.
I then realized my mistake as Earl continued to mutter, hooked solid on the 6 ball. I did not ask him but I think that Earl had made the same mistake as I had and had went for shape on the wrong ball. It would have been relatively easier to have shot the 5 and gotten shape on the real 6 ball.
At the DCC Big Foot 10 ball challenge I was watching the Earl play in a match. He was shooting the 5, not an easy pot and made more difficult by what it would take to get to the 6 ball; it would take some stroke. Unfortunately, I had become a little confused by the colors and mistakenly thought the 7 ball was the 6 ball. Earl made the 5 like it had eyes, came off two rails and settled in with perfect shape on the 7 ball which I still thought of as being the 6. I turned to my wife and said, ‘Wow, some shot!’ Earl, moving as Earl always does, came around the table, saw his shape on the 7, heard my comment, and muttered something about fans who didn’t know what they were talking about as he looked daggers at me.
I then realized my mistake as Earl continued to mutter, hooked solid on the 6 ball. I did not ask him but I think that Earl had made the same mistake as I had and had went for shape on the wrong ball. It would have been relatively easier to have shot the 5 and gotten shape on the real 6 ball.
considering the colors......what is it, "puke green"? LoL
These pool balls aren't very attractive, are they?
The first time I saw them was in Tunica at the tournament, the players were making fun of them, especially the 6 ball.
I played with them once and only shot the 6 out of turn once. That was a great accomplishment considering the colors......what is it, "puke green"? LoL
We just want to know who decided the colors for the 6 and 7 ball? Were they color blind, or did they intentionally use these colors?
These pool balls aren't very attractive, are they?
The first time I saw them was in Tunica at the tournament, the players were making fun of them, especially the 6 ball.
I played with them once and only shot the 6 out of turn once. That was a great accomplishment considering the colors......what is it, "puke green"? LoL
We just want to know who decided the colors for the 6 and 7 ball? Were they color blind, or did they intentionally use these colors?
Of course the players aren't the only reason pro pool is in such disarray. There are many, many issues that contribute to the problem.
Still, given the state of where pro pool is, in today's world of immediate access and social media, having "pro's" step on their anatomy publicly will not help attract sponsors. And that is critical, if any headway is to be made.
Some of these guys don't understand that. The image they present is part of what is going to be "sold".
Hopefully they'll come around, and more, better working relationships are developed.
Parasite, I accept that as a compliment coming from him, I am not offended at all.
Most Americans property taxes are higher than his yearly income.
He is not a pimple on a butt in a world class event.
His cues are good for one thing, Firewood
Social Media, expect what you give.
Signed: Another Parasite
Most Americans property taxes are higher than his yearly income.
He is not a pimple on a butt in a world class event.
His cues are good for one thing, Firewood
Social Media, expect what you give.
Signed: Another Parasite
In another thread. Someone puts the question to:
Are there any none billiard company's that could sponsor pool tournaments?
WELL it would seem we'll need outside sponsorship soon now that so many are CRITICAL of some billiard company's products when willing to bring money into the game
LOL :thumbup:
Are there any none billiard company's that could sponsor pool tournaments?
WELL it would seem we'll need outside sponsorship soon now that so many are CRITICAL of some billiard company's products when willing to bring money into the game
LOL :thumbup:
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