I have seen many threads referring to this. 
Can someone explain to me what that is?
Can someone explain to me what that is?
WTF is "backhand english?"
- Thread starter CrownCityCorey
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When your "pimp hand" is strong, you can actually get english. Kidding, I'd like to know too.
CrownCityCorey said:I have seen many threads referring to this.
Can someone explain to me what that is?
It's when you apply english by moving your back hand and changing the contact point on the CB. Usually you pivot around your bridge hand.
If you pivot around the right point, the effects of deflection and the different direction of the movement of the cue offset and allow you to hit your aim point as if you were aiming with center ball.
~rc
Go see Alex at Stix.CrownCityCorey said:I have seen many threads referring to this.
Can someone explain to me what that is?
:wink:
You probably do it subconsciously, Corey, and don't even know it.
Let's see if I get this correct (SIMPLIFIED definitions)....
Back-hand english: Your cue is aligned along the proper aim line. You move your back hand and pivot at your bridge to apply english. If you know the "pivot point" of your particular cue, it will cancel out deflection.
Front-hand english: You cue is aligned along the proper aim line. You move your bridge to apply english while keeping your back hand at its original position.
Parallel english: You move your entire cue parallel to the proper aim line to apply english (retarded, IMO)
Dave
Let's see if I get this correct (SIMPLIFIED definitions)....
Back-hand english: Your cue is aligned along the proper aim line. You move your back hand and pivot at your bridge to apply english. If you know the "pivot point" of your particular cue, it will cancel out deflection.
Front-hand english: You cue is aligned along the proper aim line. You move your bridge to apply english while keeping your back hand at its original position.
Parallel english: You move your entire cue parallel to the proper aim line to apply english (retarded, IMO)
Dave
Hard to believe, Corey, but then again, I see many threads about how to play this game well, and I have no idea what people are talking about.CrownCityCorey said:I have seen many threads referring to this.
Can someone explain to me what that is?
Anyway, here's a youtube video from Colin Colenso explaining it better than I ever could with the million words I've tried to use in the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERFTM8dbat0
Fred <~~~ bad communicator
SpiderWebComm said:
I think I do that when I really need to juice up an object ball (or cue ball for that matter). Sound right?
If anybody's gonna be at the US Open and knows, will you show me?
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The clearest explanation that i have seen in quite some time is by Joe Tucker.
http://www.azbilliards.com/joetucker/joe1.php
The 1st 2 videos explain it very clearly.
http://www.howcast.com/playlists/22...ka-English-To-To-the-Cue-Ball-and-Its-Effects
http://www.azbilliards.com/joetucker/joe1.php
The 1st 2 videos explain it very clearly.
http://www.howcast.com/playlists/22...ka-English-To-To-the-Cue-Ball-and-Its-Effects
I was at a clinic with Nick Varner, and when he was showing us some shots, I asked him what he was doing with his back hand. His bridge was planted and firm (Nick likes to really dig his fingers into the cloth) and he was wagging his grip hand side to side before he started his warm up strokes.SpiderWebComm said:
He said, "I'm sort of locking in my english."
The rest of us would call it "backhand english." I doubt he ever heard the term either (in fact he didn't seem to have heard of the term), nor do I think he was really conscious that he does it.
And no, it's not part of the reported hand tremors. It was very distinctly a back and forth with his grip hand until he was at the spot he wanted.
Fred
Cornerman said:
I watched the first couple minutes of the video, and I am still slightly confused. I've never consiously, I don't think, done what Colin did.
I am thinking it has to do with amping up whitey with spin for some thing. Consiously, I will use a slip-stoke when I need to do that (close quarters).
Perhaps, I am doing this backhand english deal at a distance?
Am I at least getting warm to the concept?
SUPERSTAR said:
Seeing the end of that first video - I get it!
I never called that anything.
For me, if I need the ball, whitey, to go straight and juice it up, I just do it! It has never had a name.
For some reason, I actually wish that I still did not know what everybody is talking about. Now, it is just another thing to disect about the way I hit the ball.
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
LOL!
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CrownCityCorey said:
Not really close.
At it's simplest, it's the easiest way to adjust for squirt (aka cueball deflection) with a normal cue shaft. By only moving your backhand, you efffectively will aim thicker for inside english and thinner for outside english when hitting firm (relatively low swerve).
If words and video can't explain it, then an explanation on a table is the best bet. Maybe the US Open with Dave (SpiderWebComm) or anyone else that understands backhand english.
Fred
it's one more thing to focus on other than making the shot you're trying to make.
haha, I started to watch the video but I have to know about pinot point or whatever, and I don't really have a clue what that is either... I just turned it off.
Keep it simple!
Keep it simple!
CrownCityCorey said:I have seen many threads referring to this.
Can someone explain to me what that is?
Remember that shot Louie Ulrich was showing us at my house a few months ago, he moved his back hand and said it wasnt BHE-I just wanted to confuse you more.
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