You know what I hate?

Here's a good situation.

I play this friend of mine almost every Thursday for 2-7 hours. It's the kind of game that if you miss, you might kick for quite a while. Well, this older fella sometimes watches from afar. I can tell that he DOES know a little by the way he smiles when someone uses inside English to cut down using a rail. He knows. But, on this given day, I had just played perfect for six games with two break and runs, two safes followed by runouts, and two break and runs. I break and have a long cut down the rail with inside to get down table. Well, I overcut it or the English threw it off. Whatever, he felt the urge to make sure I knew that "You should've played safe on that ball. In my day, I played for big bucks and I'd have played safe." Too funny. I just laughed at this and said, "We're not in your day. But thanks."
 
mullyman said:
I don't like the guys that piss and moan, after you beat them, about how they didn't get enough sleep the night before, work was so hard today, or any other excuse they can come up with. What is it with pool players? Can't anyone just say "Good game" and leave it at that?
MULLY
I love it. Next time you see'em, remind them of the reasons they played bad. Make'em stick to it.
 
I love all those stories.....the guy that paid his was thru college, the guy that used to play better, the guy that hasn't practiced, the guy that is much worse than you and has horrible fundamentals but cannot live another moment without telling YOU how to play.....

Most people (guilty here, I know I have done this before) usually honestly believe what they are saying and they are doing this because they are uncomfortable, insecure, and/or are laying the groundwork for losing.....the beauty of it is, they've already accepted losing and have it in their head, so all you have to do is take them down the path they are ready to go down :D
 
Safety said:
I'm usually a really positive and optimistic person, but sometimes I hear the most annoying things when I'm at the poolhall.

Maybe its just me, but it especially bugs me when I hear someone say, "I should bring my friend, he'll beat everyone in here. He was the top geometry student when we were in high school and now he's an engineering major at [fill in your favorite Ivy League school here]!"

Is it just me? What are the other outrageous things you've heard?

LoL I heard something near exactly like that years and years ago. Goodness it musta been 15 years ago that I heard that and I swear I will never forget it.

It wasn't someone saying they should bring a math whiz friend though because it was two math whiz guys at the table. After so many misses I heard one of em say something about how this should be easy because it's just simple math. I just shook my head and went about playing.
 
My brother is a physics teacher and he is possibly the worst pool player ever. What drives him nuts is that "In theory I should be good at this." I laugh every time he says this.

I also have a teammate in league who has a PHD in mathematics from Oxford. He's quite a good player but I'm still better. All those years he had to go to school I was practicing...

I will say though that I've never met a great player who was stupid. This game definitely takes some smarts. If you're smart and have good hand-eye coordination (something my brother doesn't have much of) you can do quite well in this game.
 
punter said:
I thought you liked to pick on old people.:wink:


Whew. I thought you were being serious, and I was wondering what I did, lol. Please feel free to make fun of me or talk any manner of smack on me, I guarantee I talk worse about myself. I just didn't want to have honestly pissed anybody off, for no good reason. Sometimes I disagree with people here(OMG, not on the 'net!!!!!), but I truly don't mean to offend, just get my point of view out there. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
 
Chris_Lynch said:
I will say though that I've never met a great player who was stupid. This game definitely takes some smarts. If you're smart and have good hand-eye coordination (something my brother doesn't have much of) you can do quite well in this game.

I agree with that completely. I've met a lot of really nice people while playing pool and I've met a handful that I didn't get a lot with at all. But every single one of these people were unique and pretty smart imo.
 
The banger dudes trying to teach girls used to piss me off a lot, but now they just make me laugh.

I take a lot of girls to the hall to teach them the basics. I'm (usually :p ) just friends with them but word got out (I am in college after all) and now I teach a lot of the girls in my circle of friends. It's sort of like my way of exacting revenge on the "expert" bangers. Nothing funnier than seeing my lady friends tell their suitors how bad their form is and why they miss their shots. :thumbup: :clapping: :rotflmao1: :killingme:

I also hate anyone who talks too much, banger or otherwise. Choice quote of the year from a kid with 3 months experience:

"Actually, sharking doesn't bother me at all." :rotflmao1:

I'm sure sharking wouldn't bother any of us if we used half second pre-shot routines and 1 abbreviated practice stroke for every shot ;)
 
I learned a long time ago, that I cant teach my wife anything! lol!! If I try to teach her something it always ends badly.
 
Lol!

I got a girls phone number once and I could never get her to go out with me, so somehow pool came up in the conversation and I told her that I've played for years.

So she says oh, well I have a guy friend that is a pro league player and I said I bet I could beat him easy. She says ya right! So I end up meeting up with him to play. Needless to say after we played for a while he quit after i drilled him with the 678. I win a hundred, then she hangs out with me, end of story.
 
geometricky

Once you figure out the geometry, physics and general math of pool, you have consumed a lot of time and memory. THEN your geometry and physics cant calculate throw, spin, hold, etc, without simply exceeding the processing power of the human brain.

I hereby call out the human calculator. lol.
 
Safety said:
Haha...everyone here just made me feel better. Thanks!

Its not the statement alone that bugs me...its just how frequently I've heard that SAME EXACT thing. Its always geometry and engineering.

I guess I can understand where geometry would come from if they didn't know how to play. But engineering????



Sorry, I wasn't attacking geeks. I'm a geek myself. I was actually complaining about the people who make those statements. I don't mean to offend anyone by this post, just venting.

The funny part is, those of us REAL geeks (not the wannabee geeks:eek: ) know that the principles of geometry that apply directly to pool are so basic and simple that just about everybody understands them through intuition. The more subtle part that we also understand is that the table does not behave in an "ideal" fashion, which is where the skill and experience and PRACTICE come in.

I'd tell the dude to go get his buddy, and bring money!

Tom
 
Safety said:
I'm usually a really positive and optimistic person, but sometimes I hear the most annoying things when I'm at the poolhall.

Maybe its just me, but it especially bugs me when I hear someone say, "I should bring my friend, he'll beat everyone in here. He was the top geometry student when we were in high school and now he's an engineering major at [fill in your favorite Ivy League school here]!"

Is it just me? What are the other outrageous things you've heard?


My brother is one of the top Civil Engineers in Milwaukee...He very willingly admits how much he hates pool because all of his mathematical learning doesn't mean squat. He knows there's too many other variables when it comes to angles and leaves the pool playing to me...The now-partially-disabled-concrete-worker... What does that say about Enginerds?
 
Geometry won't do squat if you don't know the table well.
For example, from my experience Diamond rails play differently from GC rails for the most part. A straight in bank on a GC will usually leave the OB 2-3 inches from the pocket on a Diamond, and the straight in diamond bank will frequently turn into a 2-3 cushion position nightmare on a GC.
With that being said, knowing the table and speed of the cloth is very important too. And unless you're a super genius physicist, calculating coefficients of static friction affecting the impulse acting upon the OB from the CB upon contact and the subsequent english and how it affects the OB/CB based on the cloth's specific coefficient of kinetic friction on the fly to determine throw and resultant angles is pretty much impossible. And there's really no given way to calculate how springy the cushions are, so calculating a bank with math may be very hard given the compression and slight english that would affect the CB in many cases. I guess if you used Tension as the reacting force upon the cueball from the cushion you could theoretically reverse engineer the angle and speed the cueball rebounds at, but how the hell would you actually calculate the tension? O_o
 
jcommie said:
Geometry won't do squat if you don't know the table well.
For example, from my experience Diamond rails play differently from GC rails for the most part. A straight in bank on a GC will usually leave the OB 2-3 inches from the pocket on a Diamond, and the straight in diamond bank will frequently turn into a 2-3 cushion position nightmare on a GC.
With that being said, knowing the table and speed of the cloth is very important too. And unless you're a super genius physicist, calculating coefficients of static friction affecting the impulse acting upon the OB from the CB upon contact and the subsequent english and how it affects the OB/CB based on the cloth's specific coefficient of kinetic friction on the fly to determine throw and resultant angles is pretty much impossible. And there's really no given way to calculate how springy the cushions are, so calculating a bank with math may be very hard given the compression and slight english that would affect the CB in many cases. I guess if you used Tension as the reacting force upon the cueball from the cushion you could theoretically reverse engineer the angle and speed the cueball rebounds at, but how the hell would you actually calculate the tension? O_o

Alright, that's just about enuf of dat sh!t. Ur creating way too much reactionary tension which inhibits natural gravitational pull. Into the timeout corner you go. :wink:
 
Big Perm said:
I love all those stories.....the guy that paid his was thru college, the guy that used to play better, the guy that hasn't practiced, the guy that is much worse than you and has horrible fundamentals but cannot live another moment without telling YOU how to play.....

Most people (guilty here, I know I have done this before) usually honestly believe what they are saying and they are doing this because they are uncomfortable, insecure, and/or are laying the groundwork for losing.....the beauty of it is, they've already accepted losing and have it in their head, so all you have to do is take them down the path they are ready to go down :D

I couldn't have said it better. I almost laugh when someone starts making excuses for bad play before we even start playing.
 
MilwShooter said:
My brother is one of the top Civil Engineers in Milwaukee...He very willingly admits how much he hates pool because all of his mathematical learning doesn't mean squat. He knows there's too many other variables when it comes to angles and leaves the pool playing to me...The now-partially-disabled-concrete-worker... What does that say about Enginerds?

It says they are smart enough to know where their strengths are.
 
MilwShooter said:
My brother is one of the top Civil Engineers in Milwaukee...He very willingly admits how much he hates pool because all of his mathematical learning doesn't mean squat. He knows there's too many other variables when it comes to angles and leaves the pool playing to me...The now-partially-disabled-concrete-worker... What does that say about Enginerds?

That their careers keep them too busy to spend the 1000's of hours that it takes to become a good pool player? :confused:
 
> Players that woof constantly,even at non-players,and talk all kinds of crazy shit about how they ran 2 racks on someone,then when pressed by a serious player,want to play a race to 7 for 10 bucks :confused:.

People that won't let you in their 4 handed,nitty-ass dollar a man ring game because "you're too good for us",and there isn't another table to play on because 16 people are sitting around playing POKER on the other 2 pool tables :angry:. Not a knock on poker either.

All the stories people tell about they know a place where people play 100-1000 A BALL :eek:. Only in liability "golf",which is only played on a snooker table,is this even remotely possible. If that were the case,the only people that would play for money would be guys from Fatboy's income bracket.

People that refer to Minnesota Fats as Fats Domino :o. In all cases of this,they always knew someone that beat him gambling. What's worse is when you explain to them that despite his self-promotion and rep,there were at least 50 guys that would have literally swam a river of dog shit to play him,and they try to correct you.

How about the people that think you're SUPPOSED to talk shit while you're opponent is shooting,or that draw an X in front of the pocket they're shooting at?

People that look at me funny after I run out on them,when they specifically asked me to "take it easy" on them,or I run out 1 rack playing bar-style challenge the table,and they pick their quarters up and leave.

People that find out you can really play,and want to take you out "hustling".

People that try to dissuade you from taking the game seriously and trying to improve,or even help the place out by cleaning the balls,by saying "it's just a game".

People that refuse to play by the proper rules,saying "this isn't ESPN".

Basically,I hate 90% of the people that hang out in the only pool room here in town. Tommy D.
 
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