She’s one of the most experienced refs on the circuit, and to be fair, Filler is a lunatic. You can see her scrambling to get into position. One of the benefits of organization and money being applied to a sport is technology. Snooker now defers to the marker (ref responsible for scoring) for any iffy calls and foul misses. They use video playback for close calls and do overlays when replacing balls for foul miss calls. Hopefully pool benefits in a similar way as Matchroom pushes 9 ball hard.
Can you update this thread when Danny threatens to box you for lying about his shot?
Here's why I said what I did about English referees. In snooker they shadow the player around the table for a valid reason. They spot balls back up so they need to be near the table. Their method is poor for 9 ball and 10 ball. No need to shadow the players around the table. Sit in a chair or stand still away from the table until you have to look at a hit. Then walk up to the table where the object balls are - hands behind your back - stand motionless and watch the hit. She was 20 feet away from that hit and called it wrong. If you watch the match she squeezed in up against him in front and the wall in back. That's ridiculous.
Interesting take, but I don't see why the singular difference of not needing to replace balls on spots alters pool so differently from snooker. A ref's location/position needs to be as dynamic as the player's. How else are they to determine the legal play..? The only way parking a ref in a corner works is if players fully adopt the honour system. Which simply won't happen in 'american pool'
I disagree, especially because they are playing all ball fouls.
You think standing 20 feet away from the shot is the correct way to judge a hit?
You need to sort out which side the argument you're on. Are you saying that refs should or shouldn't shadow players...? In one breath you say they shouldn't because it isn't like snooker. In another you're complaining that they're not close enough. Which is it....?
I'm surprised this is so difficult. She should stand in one spot until needed to call a hit. Then do what American referees do. Walk up to the table. Hands behind the back. Stand motionless and watch the hit.
Normally it wouldn't be, but when the back and forth is akin to playing tennis with a bag of cats, it's hard to judge the angle someone is coming from....lol
yes.
Never liked that rule Dave, where you can shoot directly through a frozen ball. We never played that way back in my day. You had to either shoot at an angle, so the cue ball did not follow directly behind the object ball, or elevate and draw the cue ball back after contact. Shot correctly this way the cue ball would roll forward slightly and then reverse path backwards.
Personally I always thought the snooker approach made the most sense. On frozen ball you must shoot away. This removes any and all grey interpretation of what's legal or not, (jacking up or angled away to some degree, playing in Texas rather than NewYork). If the frozen ball represents a legal OB then in terms of pool, only a rail need be contacted after shooting away.
