Your opponent gets a spot shot, which ball do you spot?
- Thread starter ChrisBanks
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???? I really have no idea what you're talking about. I asked for something specific and you told me to "believe you".
The spot location isn't a mystery.. You can look at it and see where it is in relation to the diamonds.
When playing one pocket you can break to whatever side you want anyway. Right and Left handed doesn't matter- If one side of the table plays better than the other I bet both players will start playing for the same hole.
--> Regardless which side they typically prefer.
I'm trying to take you seriously but I'm losing it.
Dudley
Ahh, but if I or someone like me were the official, I might ask a question or two & then make a ruling under the sportamanship rules.
In any case, due to this type of gamesmanship, it is obvious that new rules need to be written that would require that the lowest ball pocketed would be the ball to be spotted & that the numbered area can not touch the cloth. Otherwise knowledgeable players would be rightfully slowing down the tournament by asking for an official to spot a different ball & 'hoping for a sportsmanship ruling that would help them to win the match'.
I had an eye accident, so when I pull a ball to spot & I do pull the six(6) I never spot it. I get the next available ball. Who ever chose green to be a ball color on green cloth was simply just not thinking or was simply an intellectional that never did any physical activity requiring the use of eye sight.
I ran into a fellow AZBer a couple of months ago in a pool bar. We were just playing a friendly game. He racked the six on the spot. Before I got into position to break, I ask him if he could do me a favor. He said sure. I asked him if he could rack the balls with the one on the spot. He said sure & re-racked. He probably was not embarrassed in the least. But my opinion of him was certainly influenced.
Just my two cents,
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ChrisBanks
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These are the days of tight pockets. And if your opponent has a live ball, the pressure is magnified. Your arm will probably be shaking to and fro. You might even roll it if you only need one. The tension in your muscles is probably increasing. And you might have been bunting for the past half hour. Your stroke might not be loose as it was earlier. Now, you are primed to miss the very shot which you say you can shoot without eyes.
I've seen guys who always place the six ball in front when racking for their opponent in One Pocket. If they do it to me I ask them to change it.
Yes, Jay. In fact there are a few still around that will only use the non-florescent balls for the 1st 3 in the rack (6, 7 & 8). It makes it harder to see the split between balls I think. If you see this pattern more than once, it's on purpose.
He joined in Nov 2012 and all his posts are like this, it's rather ridiculous.
It's almost like an SC5 type vibe, but SC5 on Adderall
It's almost like an SC5 type vibe, but SC5 on Adderall
ChrisBanks
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Am I not discussing something important? Half of the threads in the main forum have nothing to do with the game. What do you suggest we talk about then?
It's more of a Pocketpoint sort of style. His posts are shorter than the usual PP stuff, so the style isn't immediately evident. But the underlying philosophy seems to be similar.
Am I on the right track, ChefJeff?
Could be that's what he meant At Large...but that isn't what his post stated.
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EagleMan
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Originally Posted by 8pack
It dosnt matter its the same shot for all.To me if I dont have to do anything fancy,its always a half ball hit. Pretty simple.
ONLY if the CB is placed within...oh...1/4 from the ONE SINGLE aproach path line that would make a 1/2 ball hit correct.
Move the CB more than that and it isn't a 1/2 ball hit anymore...at not least on good, tight pockets. I guess on buckets, the margin of error would be greater.
I'm not arguing. I'm just saying that pool is a game of ANGLES and it would be misleading to the lower speed players if they thought they could place the CB "in the general area" of where they break from (the "typical spot shot") and expect it to ALWAYS be a half ball hit...'cause it ain't.
For example...what fractional hit would you think is required of the CB was placed at the center of the head string? So, if you move the CB from the ONE CORRECT SPOT where the 1/2 ball hit is correct...toward the center of the head string, the fractional hit would change constantly.
Agreed?
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ChrisBanks
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The humor is that in order to pocket a spot shot with a half ball hit, you need to freeze the cueball to the side rail. And who does this to pocket a spot shot? Absolutely no one.
ChrisBanks
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Well? We still have no answer. A half-ball hit on a spot shot requires the cueball to be frozen (or nearly frozen) to the side rail.
And here we have people saying that on spot shots they place the cueball at the area where they simply have to make a half-ball hit.
But obviously by placing the cueball essentially frozen to the rail, you have made the shot about 5 times harder, and no one would ever place the cueball here.
So now I'm trying to figure out the intentions of those posting this information. It doesn't make sense to me.
And here we have people saying that on spot shots they place the cueball at the area where they simply have to make a half-ball hit.
But obviously by placing the cueball essentially frozen to the rail, you have made the shot about 5 times harder, and no one would ever place the cueball here.
So now I'm trying to figure out the intentions of those posting this information. It doesn't make sense to me.
Now to really shark a person, spot a ball and then change balls. Always spot a solid with the numbers where they cannot be an aiming spot.
ChrisBanks
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You're extremely wise, I've never thought about that!
That's not correct. A half-ball hit on the OB, assuming no side spin on the CB and no cut-induced throw (CIT), produces a 30-degree cut. The point on the head string to place the CB for a geometric 30-degree cut is about 10.4" from the side rail (not against the side rail). Allowing for CIT, the distance needs to be a bit closer to the rail than that (about 9" works well for me).
Placing the CB on the head string and against the long rail is geometrically about a 20-degree cut for the spot shot (a significant difference from a half-ball hit).
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-ugotaction!!!!!!!
As pointed out by Bob Byrne, this puts your cue stick over some part of the corner pocket which I think is the easiest way to judge the position. The cue ball is certainly nowhere near frozen to the long rail except for very, very liberal interpretations of "frozen."