Would you play with a three turnover rule?
Your thoughts on '3 fouling' your way to victory?
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smiling_Hans
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Only off the break will I do it.
It’s an automatic win.
It’s an automatic win.
Won't the variant called one shot push out(where you can push-out at any time or multiple times) be the fairest format to play? Helps make bad rolls a thing of the past.
Correct me about what this format is called.
Why not? I don't care how I win.
if its a tournament and the rules are such do it. if in a poolroom unless you state it first it doesn't apply as you will find out.
and it isnt so easy to 3 foul someone starting with ball in hand on an open table. other wise you would see it tried more often.
and it isnt so easy to 3 foul someone starting with ball in hand on an open table. other wise you would see it tried more often.
To me, 3 fouling someone can be a double edged sword. Like trying to knock someone out. It's great when it comes, but if you chase it, there can be negative repercussions.
Like getting out of stroke.
Like getting out of stroke.
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I think I was three fouled once, decades ago. Anytime I am on one foul I am taking a hard look at the table. My second foul will be getting myself out of the possibility of a three foul if it looks possible.
Now it is my opponent's rack planning that is in disarray. His easy tap, tap, tap, three foul is gone and he maybe has some headaches of his own to solve now. Always seems to me that getting three fouled is the result of a lack of table knowledge or an excess of arrogance. I am sure that there have been unavoidable three fouls out of the bazillion games played but how often do you see after the fact that the three foul could have been avoided?
As is often the case with pool, when we get in three foul trouble it isn't the current shot that is a trouble shot but a shot or two before it. Playing chess is one of the things that make you very hard to three foul.
Low level players can be three fouled by lack of knowledge. Advanced players may be three fouled due to overconfidence in their ability to shoot out of messes. Once in awhile there is a brilliant three foul using three different areas of the table. That is when the pool gods are having their fun with you and you are pretty much just had.
Hu
Hu
Now it is my opponent's rack planning that is in disarray. His easy tap, tap, tap, three foul is gone and he maybe has some headaches of his own to solve now. Always seems to me that getting three fouled is the result of a lack of table knowledge or an excess of arrogance. I am sure that there have been unavoidable three fouls out of the bazillion games played but how often do you see after the fact that the three foul could have been avoided?
As is often the case with pool, when we get in three foul trouble it isn't the current shot that is a trouble shot but a shot or two before it. Playing chess is one of the things that make you very hard to three foul.
Low level players can be three fouled by lack of knowledge. Advanced players may be three fouled due to overconfidence in their ability to shoot out of messes. Once in awhile there is a brilliant three foul using three different areas of the table. That is when the pool gods are having their fun with you and you are pretty much just had.
Hu
Hu
I 3F'ed a guy yrs. ago in USPPA. And he was the best player there. He never spoke to me, or even looked at me after that.
It was so easy to 3f him...there was a small clump of balls on the rail, and I kept feathering the 3b and sending cb way down the table. No way anybody could've prevented doom. Funny thing was all he had to do was spread the cluster and take the foul. I was not a threat to run out.
So a lesson to all...take the foul and splash any dangerous clusters.
You would have to spot me 2 fouls on top of 3
So if 3 balls drop on the break playing 9B with an easy layout and your opponent scratches, you're going for the 3 foul? I'd only consider it if there were balls tied up that couldn't easily be broken up with ball in hand.
smiling_Hans
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Of course if that happens I’m giving to pocket the balls. I’m an offensive player and rarely do I push or play safe.
If a conventional layout with halls tied up I will most definitely play for the 3 fouls.
I don’t play in bars but I highly doubt many bars have a 3 foul rule and most players who play in bars probably never heard of it.
If I’m playing in a tournament where there is a 3 foul rule and there is a 3-4 ball cluster and the situation is available I will try it. If the table is open I have a lot better chance of running out than I do of 3 fouling someone.
I think I’ve only been 3 fouled a couple times and one of them was by a banger in a local tournament. IDK if his defense was that good or if my kicking game just wasn’t up for the task that day. I 3 fouled a good player at the derby this year.
Don’t know why anyone get upset at someone for doing it. It is one of the rules of about any tournament and it’s there for a reason.
If I’m playing in a tournament where there is a 3 foul rule and there is a 3-4 ball cluster and the situation is available I will try it. If the table is open I have a lot better chance of running out than I do of 3 fouling someone.
I think I’ve only been 3 fouled a couple times and one of them was by a banger in a local tournament. IDK if his defense was that good or if my kicking game just wasn’t up for the task that day. I 3 fouled a good player at the derby this year.
Don’t know why anyone get upset at someone for doing it. It is one of the rules of about any tournament and it’s there for a reason.
If someone is pissy about 3 fouls win, then they are not of good sportsmanship. Hence not worth playing with. It takes a lot of thought processing to be able to 3 fouls someone. It isn’t easy to play safe while baiting for that either. If I play against other person who utilize the same strategy, our play will drag out, but both will be very satisfying. Every ball and stance is a challenge to overcome. It is much more fun and I also found that pocketing the 8 ball is also less stressful as well
If the breaker scratches he is on one, if you put him safe behind a cluster and he takes an intentional foul to break up the cluster he's on 2, that's very risky for the breaker, even just a simple 1 rail kick can cost him that rack.
dendweller
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I had a guy I play often start safing me big time. Irritating at first but it taught me some things, like getting better at recognizing when it's time to safe and how to safe better.
I wouldn't do it in a bar, did once many years ago, lucky the crowd was forgiving.
I don't know if I'd go that far. I'd say for players rated 700, after one scratches on the break, their opponent, if they tried to get them on three every time, might be successful 10-20 percent of the time.
Flakeandrun
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3-fouls are part of the game. If you gonna win, make it happen.
