Yu Ram Cha Tops Men's Field at King's Bay Tournament

Russ, LOL

Russ Chewning said:
Dammit, don't run her off before I get a chance to get back home and practice up! :D :D :D

Russ
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Practice up Russ!!! I will be waiting too. LOL (just kidding)
But would be happy to play some when you get to washington.
 
lodini said:
If you are a pro in another country, does that automatically make you a pro here? (not trying to start the "what constitutes professional status" arguement again.... just trying to figure out how all this works)
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We're talking pool here...there are no set rules in the US. If you like someone (a friend maybe) he/she get's to play. If your not liked by the right people you can't play. I might add that there are some very good tours with strict rules that go by them in the US too.

I've asked this question of players for years, "do you think pros should be able to play with amateurs?"

Most pro's said, "hell yeah...show me the money."

Most amateurs asked in front of other people said, "I don't mind them playing. It will help my game to play them."

About half of the ones that said yes in front of other people said no in private. Johnnyt
 
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Johnnyt said:
If you loke someone
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Huh? I tried to figure out if your fingers were shifted to the left or right one set of keys but still couldn't figure out what you were trying to say.
 
Fart sniffer said:
Huh? I tried to figure out if your fingers were shifted to the left or right one set of keys but still couldn't figure out what you were trying to say.
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loke = like

lol
 
Blackjack said:
The Ladies Spirit Tour is "sort of" an amateur tour, amateurs can play, but it is also a stepping stone to the WPBA tour - and they are WPBA sanctioned. Anybody (female) can play in a LST event - pro amateur - or whomever. The ladies are fighting for a qualifying spot - and frequently you have TOP PRO PLAYERS competing on the LST such as GYK, Monica Webb, Helena Thornfeldt, Tiffany Nelson, Jeannie Seaver. Everybody understands that some pros will show up to these events before they pay their entry. So it is hardly an amateur tour.

In contrast, you cannot win a WPBA Qualifier on the KBP Tour, and you will not see any pro players, or many regional tour players that are not on the exempt list.

I have seen both Yu Ram and Bo Ram play, and they are most definitely more suited to play on the Ladies Spirit Tour. I think that anybody else that has seen the difference levels of tournament play here in Florida (Amateur-Regional-Pro) would say the same thing. I am not saying that they were wrong for allowing her to play, I am just saying that the end result proves that she should be playing on the regional tour level. I hope she makes the move to the LST, I think both Yu Ram and Bo Ram would be a nice addition to the LST, IMO the strongest "regional" tour you will ever see.
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Wow five Blackjack posts I agree on in just a week. I knew you'd come around to my kind of thinking jk:) Johnnyt
 
In my book, both tours are the same.

I hope I got my point across. If she would be allowed to play on the Spirit tour(amateur tour), why are people questioning her participation in the mens tour at this point?? When she meets the criteria for the exempt list, then so be it. But I feel she should be allowed to play until then.
 
Milo said:
I hope I got my point across. If she would be allowed to play on the Spirit tour(amateur tour), why are people questioning her participation in the mens tour at this point?? When she meets the criteria for the exempt list, then so be it. But I feel she should be allowed to play until then.
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well why arent people of the same skill level allowed to play
 
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jamesroberts said:
well why arent people of the same skill level allowed to play
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I am not from that area, so I dont know why. If there is favortism, then that is sad.
 
They do it right in Texas on the Ladies Hunter Tour (now the OBi-1 tour). No pros can play. And in IMO that's the way it should be.

Everyone on here knows there should be three kinds of tournaments.

Open=anyone with the entry fee can play.

Amateur=if you cashed in an Open or Pro event here in the US OR in any other country you can't play.

Pro=Pro's only.

Like other sports have. Johnnyt
 
I noticed on the on the first post it said July 7th--if they meant June 7 than I would think Yu Ram could still be in Florida and will play at the LST this weekend at Hammerheads. She played once last year on the LST and had a pretty high finish if I recall correctly.
I think the Kings Bay allowed Traci Hines (a wpba pro) to play in the men's events because she wasn't in the top 16 (of the wpba) so I see why Yu Ram was able to compete.
As for the LST being an amateur tour, it is a stepping stone for the WPBA but, the pros are welcome to play. They pay more to play which I think is a great idea--but they do take home the lion's share of the purse.
 
I believe there are 9 or 10 in the country?

poolhall maven said:
I noticed on the on the first post it said July 7th--if they meant June 7 than I would think Yu Ram could still be in Florida and will play at the LST this weekend at Hammerheads. She played once last year on the LST and had a pretty high finish if I recall correctly.
I think the Kings Bay allowed Traci Hines (a wpba pro) to play in the men's events because she wasn't in the top 16 (of the wpba) so I see why Yu Ram was able to compete.
As for the LST being an amateur tour, it is a stepping stone for the WPBA but, the pros are welcome to play. They pay more to play which I think is a great idea--but they do take home the lion's share of the purse.
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Like I said, I play in the NWPA. Yes it is also a stepping stone to the pros.
Not sure if we allow all pros to play or not. Maybe top 16 cant play. Will have to check on that. But are far as my understanding about womens regional tours, they are amateur?? Correct?? Maybe we can call them semi-pro tours. Which ever the phrasing would be, I consider anyone not on the pro tour to be amateur. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Doesnt it??


My heading of 9 or 10 in the country, I mean regional tours.
 
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When our tour (NWPA then ACW ) first started I remember being told that the top 20 were excluded but at the time Kerry Impson (Hartsfield) was rated 18th. I believe it was the top 16 excluded and probably still is.
 
Thanks, was not sure on the rule

Cheesethe9 said:
When our tour (NWPA then ACW ) first started I remember being told that the top 20 were excluded but at the time Kerry Impson (Hartsfield) was rated 18th. I believe it was the top 16 excluded and probably still is.
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So it is the top sixteen, Thanks for answering the rule. Was not sure.
 
no offense to the LST, but there is as high a quality of players in the KBP as there is in the LST. i played in the KBP and held many LST tournaments in my home room, and other than the 2-3 top pros that show up for the LST tourney's, i think they are of pretty comparable talent levels top to bottom. there have always been really good players in the KBP, though eventually they get removed. and even the pros who show up for the LST's aren't that great of players, at least not enough to scare anyone! I promise if you throw Monica Webb in the 2007 field of KBP tournaments, she would not run over it! she would lose alot of matches!
point being is obviously she(YU RAM) didn't run over the field that easily, cause Bobby is no champion, so let the girl play!
jeremy
 
Well Yu Ram won another...the BATT in Tampa. I believe the Kings tourny had the stronger field by far. I would like to see her qualify for a spot on the WPBA. This is just my opinion but I don't believe she will do well on that tour. Now that I came out and said that she'll probably make the TV rounds next time she plays on it. Johnnyt
 
Why should she not be allowed to play, based on her status in Korea? Until she dominated on the tour and becomes an exempt player, she is not considered a pro, therefore should be allowed to play in amatuer events.
 
dragon81 said:
Why should she not be allowed to play, based on her status in Korea? Until she dominated on the tour and becomes an exempt player, she is not considered a pro, therefore should be allowed to play in amatuer events.[/QUOTE

There are no rules in the USA. Every tour is different. But yes if she's a pro in Korea, I don't think she's leaves that in Korea when she comes over here.

As far as what I wrote in this thread about her not being that good and probably won't make it on the WPBA tour. I was very wrong. I found myself rooting for her in the last WPBA event. When I'm wrong...I say so. Johnnyt
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Kings Bay has now officially put Yu Ram on ineligible list.
Many men complained about her playing during and after first event.

Yu Ram was happy when she heard that she cannot play.
she's got a great attitude
 
I happened to catch Yu Ram Cha at WPBA Michigan City in her match against Jasmin Ouschan. Her game is coming along nicely. Most impressively, trailing by 8-6, and hooked from the seven, she executed a very difficult jump shot to stay in the match, and went on to win it double hill.

She's a young, improving player who will be fun to watch.
 
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