Lowest deflection kielwood

Besides Lucasi and Pure X which are the same company and it's the same shaft, which is not American made, the rest are American brands that are more focused on American customers. They just offer the snake oil that some wants to drink.... Do you know how many brands are out there?

CF is not pushed because it's cheaper to make, it's pushed because it performs better, needs less maintenance, it's more durable and more consist than maple and KW.
If KW was better, that it would have been mass produced by the biggest companies that lead the industry today and it would have been cheaper to make.

Top sponsored players don't have to use CF if they don't like it. They have options within the sponsor's offerings, like Biado that uses a wooden Predator shaft or Skyler Woodward that plays with CueTec Avid and not Cynergy and there are others. The fact that most still go with CF, proves that they prefer it over wood, so I don't buy the "they have to use it because they are getting paid to" claim.

If KW was such a holly grail, a company like Predator would have been all over it by now. But it makes no sense for a companies that lead in the performance and the technology aspect of the cue to deal with something that doesn't perform as well...
Carbon fiber shafts also vary in weight and performance. I believe Rhino has multiple grade of CF shafts but I'm not sure how true is the so called difference. Metrics is pretty subjective though in my opinion and what are the determining factors that could contribute to better LD. Tip? Ferrule? Insert? Foam? Weight? Is it the composition of the CF that is used? Thickness?

Lowest deflection kielwood

Is his shaft hollow?
Yes.
I think that it's a mix of tapper (more wood per inch), that fact that mine is a hybrid and has CF insert at the front end, should on paper reduce weight but maybe it doesn't, the weight of the wood at the start before it get's torrefied, maybe it was more dense than most maple and the joint type, mine is a metal insert for a 5/16x14 joint.
I doubt that there is a weight bolt in it.
I know that other people with the same shaft for different joint have a lighter shaft a bit.
And still my KW shaft is 4.3oz
A maple dowel can vary over 50 grams from lighter to heavier. Your 5/16x14 insert weighs 8 grams so the shaft weighs is about 4.0oz. Odds are it does have weight in it as 4.0oz shafts or heavier are only a small percentage of torrefied shafts, probably less then 10%. As for your comment that Kielwood shafts are snake oil... their main advantage is not weight reduction, it is the removal of free sugars and the change of cell structure that makes them more stable then non treated Maple. If weight requirements of the shaft are not an issue then the lightest shafts, either because ferrule diameter is quite small or the shaft just weighs less, it will have lower deflection. I don't believe the insert or lack thereof or weight behind the joint threads affects deflection.

What killed the slip stroke?

Maybe he releases his grip on the stick but keeps his hand loosely on it just to keep it guided…?

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I just tried it again and I think I got it this time. Just cradle the cue with no real grip and stroke at the ball. The hand will go into a natural tossing motion and the hopefully normal wrist snap will send the cue off. At this point you can feel the cue sliding and the only new timing is grasping the cue at the end. Softer strokes will find the cue stopping by itself and maximum slips can be practiced sans ball as demonstrated at the beginning. Tactile wise there is no strike involved except for the vibration of the stick.
Or something...

Lowest deflection kielwood

Besides Lucasi and Pure X which are the same company and it's the same shaft, which is not American made, the rest are American brands that are more focused on American customers. They just offer the snake oil that some wants to drink.... Do you know how many brands are out there?

CF is not pushed because it's cheaper to make, it's pushed because it performs better, needs less maintenance, it's more durable and more consist than maple and KW.
If KW was better, that it would have been mass produced by the biggest companies that lead the industry today and it would have been cheaper to make.

Top sponsored players don't have to use CF if they don't like it. They have options within the sponsor's offerings, like Biado that uses a wooden Predator shaft or Skyler Woodward that plays with CueTec Avid and not Cynergy and there are others. The fact that most still go with CF, proves that they prefer it over wood, so I don't buy the "they have to use it because they are getting paid to" claim.

If KW was such a holly grail, a company like Predator would have been all over it by now. But it makes no sense for a companies that lead in the performance and the technology aspect of the cue to deal with something that doesn't perform as well...
When did I ever say it was a Holy Grail? I am just countering your ridiculous statement that "most production cue makers don't offer KW, it is mostly a custom cue maker thing" which really is not true. the tirade you are on against KW makes me think some guy wit a KW shaft and a custom cue took your money and your girl.

You can keep your carbon snake oil, I like wood.

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Thank you i appreciate the help This gentleman is so anal about balls he brings his own to pool hall. i know who sold him that cueball. let me see what the cue ball was, it might be the one you are directing me too and that price is fine fora friend of mine
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not close and he is older and has had people critique him we all fade in the end God's way of making us all go peacefully , I do what i can for those that i feel need a friend. We all need to enjoy our last call no matter how different we are we are all here together!!

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