Bavafongoul said:

Mike,

Unfortunately neither the age nor origin of the ivory creates an exception under the current ivory bans.
As you well know, ivory already in the USA prior to 1976 is commonly referred to as pre-ban ivory. It
is because this is when African elephants were first listed under CITES. Thereafter, sales of ivory across
state lines (interstate commerce) in 2016 became illegal unless the item was a bona fide antique (over 100
years or older) or met the de minimis exception. Neither of those exceptions apply to intrastate transactions
in any states that have enacted a ban on ivory sales. The sovereignty of those states to enact laws restricting
ivory sales has been long recognized by SCOTUS in other landmark decision cases constitutionally upheld.

A 1920’s Brunswick cue meets the criteria for ICC purposes that involve shipping and sellling. The remaining
question are state laws applicable to the cue seller, cue buyer and cue maker. All 3 have to reside in states that
don’t restrict the sale of ivory. Remember each state writes their own version so check before you act to be safe.

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Thanks- they certainly won't be able to find the cue maker on my 1920's Brunswick -- He is sleeping with the elephant that contributed to his cue. !

Price returned to $275.

Mine have no play but definitely not tight, gotta have some room for epoxy and I cut a few glue lines also. Sand and clean clean clean the inside of shaft

Last year Todd Carpenter was there but not sure if he's coming again or not. Guy makes phenomenal cues, give him a look if he's there.

ChrisinNC said:

I know center CB is advised when you don’t need spin for positioning, but I’ve found that particularly under pressure and late in the rack, even when CB position is not needed, it’s more comfortable for me to apply some inside or outside, as I’ve done my entire life as a pool player.

I’ve found that I’ve missed some really crucial easy 9 ball shots trying to convince myself hit center ball, but then I guess subconsciously in the middle of the stroke I either accidentally apply spin and don’t adjust my aim point or visa versa, causing a miss. Does anyone else experience this?

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Centerball is a mythical creature not worth chasing my friend.

JAM said:

I have a sense that it may be best for me to step away from this thread, not because of the mention of Keith, but due to other topics mentioned that were painful for me at one time.

While I could probably determine who “HustlersWife” is (noting the missing possessive apostrophe in the name), I admit mention of me has left me feeling somewhat uncomfortable. It can be unsettling to see oneself written about in this way.

I will, however, respectfully note that while the words may reflect events over the years, the punctuation could use some attention, particularly the misuse of semicolons and commas. Then again, I work for journalists and best-selling authors, some quite well known from fourth estate, and many of them can’t punctuate worth a damn either. And typing speed doesn't really mean anything unless you're racing against the clock on daily copy, and that is my forte.

I wish "HustlersWife" well with the project and the continued direction of this thread.

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Thank you and you won't be mentioned. I am feeling bad for what was painful for you. I feel you. I am not writing about the railbirds and hanger's on. Or, fanboys, sweaters. Notice this! Every time I am dancing/listening to Dance Monkey by Tones and I - you are in my brain. Yes they had to dance to survive and it sucked.

Kris_b1104 said:

Not missing anything at all.

The US just enjoys getting spanked at the Mosconi Cup every year and don't plan on doing anything to change it.

Ooooorrrrrrr it could be WNT vs. Predator politics. Who knows.

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I think the politics are out of it as probably the biggest WNT/MR player promoter Jayson Shaw is playing the Men's event and also in a very interesting Mixed Doubles pairing with Savannah Easton.
Draw for mixed doubles: https://probilliardseries.com/event/2025-jacksonville/mixed-doubles-open/matches/

trob said:

Your an asshole who’s getting put on ignore .. your a new member. You waste everyone’s time reading some bullshit that isn’t even about pool and then get shitty with long time members who are questioning what it’s about. Reading your shitty come backs you should get better at pitching.. because you’re not good at it.

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I truly am not a new member. I have another account. And, I took control of his. He did not want to be memorialized on the internet. He hated the internet, only using it because I insisted. I told him, "you are going to get left so behind if you don't." Some of you may actually have had me typing his posts etc. You never know who is at the keyboard. That, won me a mock-trial in a class.

JAM said:

I have a sense that it may be best for me to step away from this thread, not because of the mention of Keith, but due to other topics mentioned that were painful for me at one time.

While I could probably determine who “HustlersWife” is (noting the missing possessive apostrophe in the name), I admit mention of me has left me feeling somewhat uncomfortable. It can be unsettling to see oneself written about in this way.

I will, however, respectfully note that while the words may reflect events over the years, the punctuation could use some attention, particularly the misuse of semicolons and commas. Then again, I work for journalists and best-selling authors, some quite well known from fourth estate, and many of them can’t punctuate worth a damn either. And typing speed doesn't really mean anything unless you're racing against the clock on daily copy, and that is my forte.

I wish "HustlersWife" well with the project and the continued direction of this thread.

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I am sorry I made you uncomfortable on here. You are the queen on this forum. I respect you and here is one big clue. You once called me green on the internet when i messaged you something that i did not like that you did. So, I called you. You, and Keith were having pork chops for your birthday dinner. Because you called my husband. Keith did not play in our tournament. This should be a big tell. This right here. I do adore you, the man I am writing about did too. He said you were the best thing to ever happen to Keith. He met you at the Expo. You took his picture.

HustlersWife said:

No, is yours Dick? I can pitch as good as I catch. Fair warning. Be well and good night.

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Your an asshole who’s getting put on ignore .. your a new member. You waste everyone’s time reading some bullshit that isn’t even about pool and then get shitty with long time members who are questioning what it’s about. Reading your shitty come backs you should get better at pitching.. because you’re not good at it.

jasonlaus said:

I didnt know coco cowboy had a sister

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tim913 said:

The woman you are referring to is
Valerie Mahaffey. The details you provided match the description of a story she reportedly told about her early life and career.

• Accident: Mahaffey reportedly fell off a catwalk while playing the role of Electra in a stage production of Gypsy. The incident is said to have occurred when she was 19 years old in Battle Creek, Michigan, during the 1970s.
• Marriage: She was also known for a personal story about meeting and marrying a man who worked as a pool hustler.
• Career: Valerie Mahaffey went on to become an Emmy-winning actress, known for roles in television shows like Northern Exposure, Desperate Housewives, Wings, and Young Sheldon.

She passed away in May 2025 at the age of 71.

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Nope, not me. So your sleuthing details turned up nothing good. No, she didn't. I was IN that show in Battle Creek, a collection of interesting people and there was no Valerie there. She could have perhaps stole MY story. If so, I will go litigious. What is mine; is mine. The most important thing was stolen from me; my husband's life. I do have my pre-law degree knocked out and I am a criminologist. Nobody will steal my story.
Some people commenting have actually done business with me, whether they know it or not. I recognize nicknames on here. People that in this American faltering pool world have two views of me, it so binary, They either like/love me; or they don't.

Mensabum said:

Spec's say? designed for 11.8 to 12.8 mm. I wonder if it would handle 13mm without biting the ferrule??

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I've used it with the Revo 12.9 with no problems

Mensabum said:

Nice. You go girl!!

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Hey thank you! I have been around enough pool to know: this is a sport that eats it's own. And, except among great players "where seldom is heard"

Daves custom cues said:

FOUL!!
i had asked if she was still alive.

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I'm on one

jasonlaus said:

I didnt know coco cowboy had a sister

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Are that art pour artist?

jax_joe said:

This is kicking off here in Jacksonville tomorrow. Not a bad line up, though no SVB or Fedor.

Draw: https://probilliardseries.com/event/2025-jacksonville/jax-mens-open/matches/

Stream: https://www.youtube.com/@ProBilliardTV/streams


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i'll be rooting for darren. don't see him play much tournaments these days

Kris_b1104 said:

Not missing anything at all.

The US just enjoys getting spanked at the Mosconi Cup every year and don't plan on doing anything to change it.

Ooooorrrrrrr it could be WNT vs. Predator politics. Who knows.

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politics is over, it seems, but the best US players have been more or less boycotting the predator events since the first one. the tables were gaffy and the format wonky. the tables are fixed and the format i think has been proven at least determinative? if you like your game and practices the shootout (and triangle rack breaking) you've got just as good a chance as an opponent of equal skill.

the eurotour refs may be another source of annoyance

xX-Wizard-Xx said:

High priced cues are silly ..... Southwest especially ....

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Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man.​

It's easy enough to say that customs have less of a place than they used to compared to production but there are plenty folks that still want customs. For instance, I'm negotiating picking up 3 Richard Blacks currently. Between custom cues and CF shafts, I absolutely do not want to know how much I currently have invested. I'd guess I have $7K in my bag at a minimum currently and God knows what total. I don't really want to know, but I probably should for insurance purposes.

That said, I do sincerely believe that the custom market is going to drop like a rock in the next 5-10 years on the outside. I'd bet 3-5. Younger folks don't know and don't care about customs when they can get whatever production companies are selling these days and be just like the player they see on TV.

Even if they did care, who amongst them is going to spend $2k+ for a cue for the most part?

skor said:

Looks like I'm in a disadvantage here, you know me but I don't know you (at least by nick name)

All my references to the 314 shaft is to the 314-2 shafts, I used to own the first generation with my first predator cue (98-1) but sold it years ago and I have a bunch 314-2 shafts.

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that's ok and sorry for not remembering me. it's been a long time. . we've met and played a couple of decades at the Monarch and that other place (forgot the name but I knew it was better than at the Monarch) crowd and tablewise. you've been to with a buddy of yours. just came back to playing again more frequently after more than a decade of absence after relocating elsewhere. I'm now based in North America. my game is very much different now and I guess that's what aging makes you. . but anyways, good to know that you are still playing. also, thanks for that info, since I'm curious to try out a hybrid shaft. the cue/shaft market does now look way different from what it once was since it was so difficult to find an upper tier cue/shaft unless we order or get it from elsewhere. last time I purchase a cue/shaft before I going on a sabbatical was getting a Pred cue with a 314-2 and the 314-3 didn't exist yet.

as far as the variance in your test goes, another thing is the construct on those shafts. if I'm not mistaken, the Cynergy and the Rhino I believe have similar construct, and as some players attested that they seem to hit pretty similar. density imo could play a part on those deflection variance. I guess, you play better using the Revo.