jimmyg said:

This is really what's going on with you....nothing more, nothing bigger, nothing noble.

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No, it isn't. I selfishly want the thread I enjoy to go back to what it was before you derailed it.

This will be my last post on this. I've made a few civil requests and you lash out instead of engaging in a conversation. If I were virtue signalling I would have told you there was no place for your posts. Instead I suggested they belong in their own thread. Posting disasters in a 'funny' thread is sociopathic. Posting them in a properly labelled thread is fine.

DeeDeeCues said:

You are welcome to your opinion, my opinion of you is rather similar. Why don't you tell me why the things you post don't belong in a more appropriate place?

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jimmyg said:

I don't think so, you're trying to gain attention and show how morally superior you are to anyone who doesn't agree with your personal ridiculously restrictive values and desire to impose them upon others....Pathetic.

Edit: It's called "virtue signaling" and if you have to ruin the most popular thread in AZ history in order to try and demonstrate your superiority, everyone else be damned...Seen it before.

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This is really what's going on with you....nothing more, nothing bigger, nothing noble.

rexus31 said:

While it was cool to have @David in FL report Jerry recalls making my cue, there was never a doubt it was authentic despite the lack of a signature or -R-. I communicated directly with Jerry during the build and I have email documentation regarding specs, finishing aesthetics and progress photos. He was a pleasure to deal with, followed up when he said he would and I received the cue on the exact day Jerry said I would when I ordered it. In my experience, this is very rare in the billiards industry. Jerry is a class act.

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Yours is beautiful!

The verification from Jerry was for the OP and his initial post though...

And yeah, a class act and one of my favorite people in the world. At 83 he still plays a pretty sporty game too.

Patrick Johnson said:

Any decent cuemaker can make one for you.

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I may do that with the Jacoby Ultra Super Pro that can be turned down from 11.75 to as low as 10mm. Interesting cuemaking with 140 veneer pieces in the Ultra shaft and the Element butt with only veneers on the surface.

nine_ball6970 said:

I have thought having the head ball be a ball other than the one is a good idea in 9 ball. With one on the spot and template racks, the pros make the wing ball on the break and play shape on the one. It makes 9 ball a joke to watch at the pro level. Even the 3 point rule doesn't make much of a difference. If you are using a template, no ball should be wired anywhere or be able to play shape. Bring back breaking hard to try to make a ball on the break.

The rules have changed so much over the years for the break in 9 ball. What makes one rule stupid vs another one good? Break from the box. Break outside the box. Change the size of the box. Put the 9 on the spot. 3 point rule at side pockets. 3 point rule at head string. Must use forceful break. If break is illegal, no push option.

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The wing ball is usually just as wired using a standard rack. The one isn't wired with 9 on the spot, pros just learned how to consistently make a ball from the break box with the 9 on the spot. Change the break rules and I'm sure they will find a way to make something, I think it's just the nature of a small rack.

Why do people think 9 ball is broken anyhow? In the to 120 between Shaw and Hoang there were only 6 B&R's after 48 racks (the first day) if I recall correctly. That doesn't seem like an unusually easy game to me.

jimmyg said:

I don't think so, you're trying to gain attention and show how morally superior you are to anyone who doesn't agree with your personal ridiculously restrictive values and desire to impose them upon others....Pathetic.

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You are welcome to your opinion, my opinion of you is rather similar. Why don't you tell me why the things you post don't belong in a more appropriate place?

DeeDeeCues said:

Nope. I am looking for a thread that delivers what is promised without a troll trying to change it instead of creating a new thread.

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I don't think so, you're trying to gain attention and show how morally superior you are to anyone who doesn't agree with your personal ridiculously restrictive values and desire to impose them upon others....Pathetic.

Edit: It's called "virtue signaling" and if you have to ruin the most popular thread in AZ history in order to try and demonstrate your superiority, everyone else be damned...Seen it before.

Sheldon said:

Picked this old beast up for free recently. Needed calibrating, but it's in fine shape otherwise. The bubble moves quite slowly, have to be patient.
It's a bit more sensitive than the Starretts I have.

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Thats a pretty unusual base, I'm guessing it was made for a specific task. Nice find!!

SA96 said:

If I was Bergman I would be annoyed.

Predator/WPA used him to promote the St Louis event and if it wasn't for him, that event would have been empty.

And now they don't invite him to thi

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Odds are he was invited or would have been had he asked for a spot.

I am quite sure that the travel-hating Bergman wants his trip to Asia to be as short as possible. His only mission is to qualify for Team USA by playing in the Philippines Open.

jimmyg said:

The guy is just looking for attention...

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Nope. I am looking for a thread that delivers what is promised without a troll trying to change it instead of creating a new thread.

jimmyg said:

Over the past 18 years this thread has matured and morphed into more than just a "funny" thread.....anyone can post things that are beautiful, interesting, pleasing in any possible way, and also lessons/examples of what we should or shouldn't do...if any one of these thing offends your sensitivities, just move on...You have no right to dictate what's acceptable to anyone but yourself...That's all I have to say.

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Nah. If you take your posts out, 95% are things that are trying to be humorous.

If we go on the 'interesting' thing, then me simply finding this current discussion 'interesting' fits right in and I have every right to pursue it while staying within the 'spirit' of what this thread 'morphed into'.

Your cues and photos are always top notch!

Breakfast break...

bbb said:

@DeeDeeCues
back in 2008 when this thread was started
the posts linked above are on the first page (you should open them to watch )
too bad you werent posting then to set the guidelines

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The guy is just looking for attention...or trying to prove how morally superior he is...You know the type...

No signature. Possibly due to a refinish

DeeDeeCues said:

Once someone can tell me why people being hospitalized or dying is funny, I'll take your advice.

Yeah, humor dresses a lot of different ways, but how are photos of steak funny? NPR is full of threads on classic cars, hot wimmens, photography, books, cooking, etc. that get traffic. Why am I the problem for suggesting that someone who is posting things that aren't considered classically funny take his spam and start one of those threads? Every friday and saturday we can expect jimmy to post about a hundred things that aren't classically funny. I don't see how a couple of posts pointing this out is such an outrage.

On the other hand...

Maybe I think it is funny to derail this thread with these comments. Maybe I'll start posting about a hundred of them every weekend. Maybe you should just scroll past them.

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Over the past 18 years this thread has matured and morphed into more than just a "funny" thread.....anyone can post things that are beautiful, interesting, athletic, pleasing in any possible way, and also lessons/examples of what we should or shouldn't do...if any one of these thing offends your sensitivities, just move on...You have no right to dictate what's acceptable to anyone but yourself...That's all I have to say.

Island Drive said:

How about AnyOne nine ball.
Can shoot any ball first when you arrive at the table, if you don't run out your opponent has the same option to win.

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so not rotation pool then?

jasonlaus said:

Awwww, shut up

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Why? It's hilarious.

People often don’t look at the sub forms, so I suggest you just post yourself in the main forum as well and ask for feedback.

Chopdoc said:

There are some old discussions in these forums about making a cue "wrapless" that cover this. You might search for those.

Probably many cue makers could/would do it. Making the seam not visible is the challenge. The first thing would be selecting the right wood I would think.

We'll see if the cue makers have much to say on this.

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Making the veneer line invisible would only be possible on a very select few pieces of veneer from very straight grain, dark woods with no figure. Even then it is a bit of a crapshoot.

I wouldn't ever do a one-piece wrap. I might do a segmented veneer wrap to incorporate the veneer changes into a design on an existing cue, but that would be an extremely rare occurrence that would depend on a lot of factors.

For every person who thinks a cue with a veneer wrap is cool, there are probably a dozen who would think it looks cheap. The two companies mentioned are not really known for building great looking cues. They have incorporated something in their manufacturing process that reduces the changes they have to make to their existing cues to drastically change the look. In other words, this is the cheapest and easiest way for them to create a 'new' line of cues.

If a person wants a cue that looks more consistent radially, as the OP mentioned, I would strongly push them toward a well-done radial segmented cue as there are actual benefits to that method of construction.