Pool is Thriving in Texas!

A couple of days ago, Frazer posted this on FB:

"Thank you Visit Frisco, Texas for hosting us - we most certainly will be coming back"

WNT.TV also interviewed the top events official for Frisco during the tourney. He stressed a strong desire for the city to host the event again. We'll see. Neither side has been explicit.
And she said in her opening speech on the final day that she hoped Frisco would have them back next year, and that Matchroom would love to come back.

Doesn't sound inked, but my money would be on a return next year.

What are the pool amateur governing bodies up to these days?

He seems to be asking about US amateur league organizations, not about the international organization of the game.
The OP didn't specify and anyone who knows me on this site, should know that I make tongue in cheek posts in an attempt to elicit humor on ANY subject that lends itself to it. I mean, I'm a funny guy, even when it's semi-serious...lol

What are the pool amateur governing bodies up to these days?

Tto echo what Bob Jewett said, amateur pool leagues are doing fine. They cater to the largest section of those that play pool, the amateurs. I attend many amateur state and national events either in a sponsor booth or doing those trickshot exhibitions as someone spoke of. And people are happy where they are. The overwhelming majority of those players view pool as a hobby. It's something fun to do with their buddies. It's a night or two out of the house to go drinking and play pool. That is all pool will ever be to them, which is perfectly fine. This is a perspective that many who complain about pool leagues and capped tournaments fail to see.

Pool is Thriving in Texas!

When I first moved to Houston in 2001 there were around a 100 rooms classified as pool halls not including bars. Most of these rooms had terrible equipment, terrible food and service. As the popularity of pool dipped over the next 15 years many of these rooms closed and it felt like pool was contracting. Over the last 5 years several newer more well equipped rooms opened offering better refreshments. At the moment 4 new high end rooms are going to open soon in the southeast Houston metro alone. Leagues are blowing up with the addition of the upl. I can’t remember a time when there were more well attended weekly tournaments than now across the metro. On the other side of the coin with the exception of last year the Houston open is gone. The space city open is gone and the big tyme classic is also no more. Only one room in the metro is capable of hosting a big tournament on 9 footers but none currently exist. There is the lone star tour but that is played on bar boxes and doesn’t draw a big field of national and international players. All in all Houston is doing well just nothing resembling big pro events or rooms able to groom elite talent.

Appleton, Boyes and Melling robbed APA Nationals?

Masters is APA, not BCA. If they played Masters that’s a bit better but Masters only has 4 players on a team, I believe he listed more than that for the team they had. The normal APA team events have 8 player teams.
You're right, but so am I, because I was referring to the BCA National Championships and not the APA National Championships. I was there when Appleton had his runner-up finish at the BCA Nationals Masters Division, but not when his team came second in the APA Nationals. Yes, BCA had a masters division, but I have no idea whether it is still the case.

My bad, and thanks for the correction.

Match probability calculator, given Fargo ratings

What I have a problem with here, is the actual game theory in which for 9ball, there is a compounding rate assessment that I don't think is being factored.

Case in point and I think it simplifies itself the higher the Fargo rate you go, so:

Race to 9, 9ball winner breaks.

Tony chohan .777 vs Filler .854

Fargo calculation gives Tony basically a 1 in 5 chance, so for every 10 sets, Tony wins 2 sets.

The problem I see here is tony winning 2 out of 10.

I don't know how to explain or calculate the true disparity other than citing one example related to black jack in which a player always uses a perfect strategy against a single deck = house edge is .5%.

From my experience, the game play gives the impression of back and forth, give and take but still overall a annoying house advantage where the cards seem to fight that much harder in favor of the house.

Now.... perfect strategy vs 4-6 decks where the house edge is 1.1%....the idiot says ohhh what's another .6% against you blahhh...(That polish accent still haunts me, if you only knew the guy)

I am here to tell you, the difference overall now feels as if FOR SURE... you are getting RUN OVER by the house. It just does, that's why I always refer to my saying of THE POWER OF 1%...it will keep the lights on in Vegas, if given enough time ILL BREAK BANK OF AMERICA.

There are reasons why that are specific to the house rules that change between the two variations and without getting into all that, I think it's dead exact when it comes to 9ball as a theory and it's compounding results in which I said one time to a intelligent person who for sure would never be able to deduce it on paper, but some people just know "things" and it goes like this:

I said if I play Efren 30 games of 1pkt, he doesn't have to win every game (in other words he cannot possibly control the outcome that deeply, my thought was the game theory itself won't allow it to happen vs my skill level etc)

When my friend said, "uhhh ...not necessarily"

THAT MADE ME THINK...and he's right. Now, I'm not going to explain why I think his intelligence especially for the game itself ALL OF A SUDDEN changed my entire outlook etc etc...he is right in the sense FOR STARTERS that I didn't give the proposition any real thought so to speak.

It's because I didn't know how but all of a sudden after what he said, true or not, I instantly became educated enough to understand the theory that he is right and for sure I do not necessarily have to win one game. I don't know how to emphatically explain it other than justifying some rational theories to it in which we begin to extrapolate an overall compounding problem...in other words, if Efren makes a mistake, what are my chances of running 8 and out?

So, we can pose the question that way to help clarify and I know based on my skill, I like his chances of winning all 30 games before the rare mistake in which it fatally cost him 1 game by running 8 and out which is an important emphasis as a base line because it's the only scenario in which not even god can make up for or out move me in difference when it comes to making up ground he lost.

If I run 4 balls, I think it's fairly safe to say it doesn't make much difference when considering the theory of his power being too overwhelming etc etc...it may not change much in his overall strategy even though it should on paper because I know for a fact I'm not helpless on a table, but to consider the fact I am wildcard DANGEROUS is really stupid and it's better to know that going in to the proposition rather than finding out after 10 games that Houston I think we have a problem here.

As good as Tony is...is just as stupid in reality to consider against Filler in 9 ball and it's because in my estimation that the Fargo rate calculation does not take into account that the virtual 77 point graduation in comparison and at that level, has too much compounding effect in which I believe it's basically the same as Filler starting out with a 3 game lead every set.... because of the punishing effects of pedigree difference (I call it the radiation effect in which the lesser player in this case does melt a bit) and the skill superiority where every inevitable mistake or miss not only costs him, but a cost in which a miss on the 5 where both players have the table dialed in respectively (another devastating problem more so for Tony and no way factored in the Fargo calc etc) ...the issue of binary mistakes becomes multiplied in cost and yes, in the case of Filler vs Chohan, a race to 9 I factor 1 out of 12 he will win because at some point I have to respect the statistical outcome within the game theory....but a race to 11 where Fargo calculation only changes a couple of percent, I don't liken this to simple mathematical outcomes where the numerical facts WILL NOT LIE, but this is different...I say it dramatically changes to something like 1 out of 18 sets Tony will win.

Another factor to be considered is the disparity in wins of a average set where yes I know, you don't get paid for yardage in this case because losing nine to nothing or 11 to nothing is no different than losing hill hill....but it is telling and once more, I'm not here to knock the Fargo system because I also know even though I am right in a sense that the Fargo calculation may be in fact severely lacking but I too maybe much more wrong in my calculations then how reality would play itself out.

But even so I only see one way Tony can win in a race to 9 and especially 11.... He needs the bulk load of favorable outcomes and Joshua to conceivably play bad enough at the same time.

I think 77 points at that level is a huge variance just like 900 to a 854 may seem inconsequential....but no way...it too being only 46 points in variance to, is considerably huge at that height...unlike a 550 vs 500... because at that level, no one generally controls an outcome to a multiple potential, much less a binary one ie; player X misses the 5 ball, no way in hell does either player from there necessarily have to run out even with a road map and with that said, the disparity is still mutually chaotic vs the game theory.

If I'm wrong in fact about my 1-12 and 1-18 it's only because I'm never factoring Filler to actually play that bad or throw up a turd on a given set....I think if it were to happen it's only because he is legitimately tired, so if that were negated somehow which I don't think is difficult to avoid like, they both play five sets once a day when both are mutually and virtually fresh.

With that being said I really think my calculations are correct which of course is far off from the Fargo calculations which of course suggest the system is severely lacking not flawed or anything if anything I think 9-ball theory is flawed...

My 2 cents

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