🔥NEW Shelby Williams 🔥 $4500.00

Offered for your consideration is a brand-new Shelby Williams custom pool cue, acquired at this year’s Super Billiards Expo. The cue has never been test-hit. It features exquisite four-point construction with vibrant veneers and is extension-ready. All specifications are provided in the accompanying photographs. The ring work is exceptional. Shelby Williams continues to produce some of the finest custom cues available today, and this example is no exception. Please send a private message if you are seriously interested. Trades are not being considered at this time

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🔥Joel Hercek🔥 MINT - $5600.00

Joel Hercek is widely regarded as one of the finest living custom cue makers in the world—and many serious collectors and players consider him quite possibly the greatest still working today.


Background and Path to Cue Making


Hercek’s journey into cue making is unusually deep and grounded. He grew up around the game (his father played both three-cushion and pocket billiards) but was more fascinated by the cues themselves than by competition. Before becoming a maker, he spent years as a dealer in fine and collectible cues, giving him intimate knowledge of the best work from earlier masters. He also spent 14 years in forestry with the Lake County Forest Preserve in Illinois, which gave him an exceptional practical understanding of wood properties, grain, stability, and how different species behave under stress and over time.


In the early 1990s he became close with the late master craftsman Burton Spain. When Spain was diagnosed with cancer in 1993, he offered to sell his business to Hercek. Joel completed an intensive eight-month apprenticeship under Spain, absorbing the demanding full-splice blank technique—a traditional, labor-intensive method that dates to the origins of cue making and that Spain had perfected. For the first 25 years of his career, every single cue Hercek built used full-splice construction. He later refined and evolved his methods (including some conventional splices in more recent years), but the full-splice foundation remains a hallmark of his reputation.


What Sets His Work Apart


• One-of-a-kind philosophy: Every Hercek cue is unique. He refuses to copy other makers’ designs and spends weeks or months researching and developing original concepts inspired by architecture, historical art periods, nature, music, and artists such as Picasso or Frank Lloyd Wright.


• Personal execution: He does all of his own inlay and engraving work by hand. Corners and points are finished to razor-sharp edges that machines cannot achieve.


• Materials and craftsmanship: He uses the finest woods from around the world, along with gold, silver, mother-of-pearl, ivory (pre-treaty where applicable), and other premium materials. His fit, finish, and overall execution are routinely described by dealers and collectors as among the absolute highest in the industry.


• Playability: While his cues are often collected as functional art, they are also highly regarded as playing instruments—quiet, solid, with excellent feedback and balance.


Reputation and Rarity


Hercek cues are among the most collectible contemporary American cues. They rarely appear on the open market, command strong prices when they do, and are owned by serious collectors and some of the game’s better-known players. His order book has been closed for many years; at various points he has still been working through commissions from the early 2000s, a testament both to demand and to the deliberate, unhurried pace at which he works.


In the high-end cue community he is spoken of with a level of reverence reserved for only a handful of living makers. Dealers describe him as “one of the very best of the best,” “top of the food chain,” and a true master of the full splice. Collectors who own his work tend to treat the cues as heirlooms.


Personal Note


When not in the shop, Hercek spends time with his wife Margaret and occasionally plays golf. He has spoken openly about the importance of integrity, faith, and doing work one is passionate about—values that come through clearly in both the quality and the scarcity of his output.


In short, Joel Hercek represents the rare combination of deep technical mastery, artistic originality, and uncompromising standards. For many who know the upper tier of custom cues, he stands as one of the greatest living makers—and a strong case can be made that he is the greatest still actively building.





This Four point cue is in mint condition. All white is genuine. Super soft Kangaroo wrap.


5/16x14 pin.
Full shafts

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Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

Now, it works for the vast majority of shots, obviously if you hit too soft, then swerve is a bigger factor, etc, etc. But there's no reason to guess or compensate manually for side spin.

You need to try and minimize swerve, so you should elevate and lower your bridge for follow and draw, but for the majority of shots, it works without any other compensation.
Well, I'm limited on knowledge on many things, but I know as much as I need to know about BHE and pivot points. You have a number of posts on this thread where you've made statements that, how should I put this, are, if not wrong, are unquestionably, incomplete.
I chose to reply to this one because it's probably the most blatant misrepresentation.

To my limited knowledge, with most LD shafts the PP is upwards of 15". Some by quite a lot. Go ahead and make the video but be sure to include let's say, 4 or 5 different types of shots and shoot them all with different speeds and distances using the same length bridge. No cherry picking.

Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

I have never seen any pool player consistently perform at their best without ever taking any practice strokes nor when someone takes an inconsistent number of practice strokes, sometimes bordering on excessive. The best athletes and pool players usually use a pre-shot routine, they generally adhere to it once they get settled and ready to perform.

You see in it pro tennis players about to serve, pro golfers on the tee box, pro baseball players in the batters box, archers about to shoot with their breathing. Gosh, there are so many examples that you can come up with. Why do you think that is?

Embracing the fundamentals and then incorporating it with your own personalized implementation can be incredibly helpful. Now the less personalizing you do, IMO, the better off you are. In other words, don’t emulate Keith McCready’s pool grip when you play pool even though it worked great for him. Just work on a pre-shot routine.

The best pool players I’ve been privileged to see in person & televised had a consistent approach before they play the shot.

When they get into shooting stance, everything is rehearsed and performed the same way. They have a blank mind, just see the sight picture before them, take the same number of practice strokes and play the shot or else they get out of their shooting stance, the best players don’t remain bent over and suddenly start thinking about what doesn’t seem right and the play the shot. When you start thinking about anything other the stroking the cue ball to a exact spot, you’re introducing variables and that usually affects the outcome. You miss the shot but come really close so you don’t learn what to do differently next time. Pool is played between your eyes before your pool cue even starts to move.

Establish a pre-shot routine and stick to it. If you can’t or resist, your mental concentration and ability to change is very
poor and you pool skills will plateau and improve very slowly, if at all. If you aren’t comfortable taking the shot, don’t remain in your stance trying to get comfortable. Stand up, step away from the table, reassess the shot, confirm exactly where to strike the object ball and whether the cue will be played stop, follow, draw or English, stand behind the cue ball and get a general sight alignment and position your body, get low to the table and do your pre-shot routine to play it. Now do not get up from your shooting stance and just watch the cue ball movement and after it comes to a rest, then get up. Watch the table not just the shot played and the best way is to follow the cue ball. Why?

Well, unless you are new to the game, we all want to cue ball to land in a destination on the table that follows our plan to run the table. And we don’t always get perfect position despite we intended to so watching the cue ball tells you about the deflection, speed, rotation & accidental collisions that happen trying to get shape and what to do next time.

EYE PATTERN “Best Practices” - Podcast with Dr. Dave and Nic Barrow

Suppose you have done all the alignment, feathering, and associated CB-OB vision transitions. Then you move the butt of the cue to apply BHE.

The line of the cue no longer connects CB center to the aim point. I know the pros do this all the time and maintain focus on the OB.

But would recreational players be better off focusing on hitting the CB at the desired offset with a straight stroke, and not risk steering the shot because the cue axis no longer is on the shot line?

I do not recommend a "swoop" or "swipe" stroke, where the BHE pivot is done during the forward stroke.

With SAWS, the BHE and FHE pivots are done before the final stroke, and a straight stroke is used, which I think is more effective for most people.

Here's an excerpt from the SAWS resource page explaining the steps and what to focus on:

When using SAWS, you first look at where you want the CB to go with a careful center-ball aim. Then you look at the tip contact point on the CB as you do the BHE/FHE pivots to ensure you are accurate with the pivots and the desired tip contact point. Then it is recommended you shift your focus back toward the OB but along the new direction of the cue. This will help ensure a straight stroke. You look where the cue is pointing, realizing that the CB will deflect to the desired target identified during the careful center-ball aim.

Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

Pat Fleming was the fastest Guy I Ever Played ! Ran a 50 on me in what seemed to be 5 Minutes
This was the first time I met him! Point and Shoot,amazing to watch IMHO
Pat's the first one that came to mind to me, too. He would settle down on the shot and then shoot. He didn't really take practice strokes.

He also didn't miss very often.

Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

When I said a little bit longer bridge I'm not referring to Long. Just longer than like a four or six inch bridge. You play with a bridge that short to make an adjustment you almost have to un-plant your bridge hand. I'm just saying you don't want to be extreme in either way.

On my reply to you I was referring to an average bridge length of somewhere between 8-12". You didn't specify any lengths (very few players bridge in the 4=6" range) so I had to go with that. The 18" thing was a reply to Jaden, not you. Just attempting to kill two birds with one stone, er post.
Even still, I'm wondering what you think a micro adjustment actually is. I wouldn't have any trouble making one with a 6" bridge.

Thoughts on this old timers sighting comment.

i grew up where we had people surrounding you on all sides sitting on opposite tables and talking and making comments all the time.

you soon learned not to be bothered. and if you said something most just laughed at you.

what a joke to expect someone to go sit in a chair and not move when it was your turn. they stood off to the side a little. that's all.
Same. Barroom.....folks drinking, talking, smoking, jukebox going, etc...

Thoughts on this old timers sighting comment.

i grew up where we had people surrounding you on all sides sitting on opposite tables and talking and making comments all the time.

you soon learned not to be bothered. and if you said something most just laughed at you.

what a joke to expect someone to go sit in a chair and not move when it was your turn. they stood off to the side a little. that's all.

EYE PATTERN “Best Practices” - Podcast with Dr. Dave and Nic Barrow

Points
Lines
Planes
I would expect? 🤔 I have it ba kward.
Well in the ass says mint phase. It goes plane line point.
With the point of contact with the white being on the line Through the ball. The precision of the strike rules, er uh determines the results.
So as long as the precision strike is there, you can close your eyes. (A fun practice drill).
Sometimes getting the cueball up and over obstacle the plane aspect of the aim process pays dividends. 🤷‍♂️
My favorite memory from this week's leagues had me throwing a hanging curve at the 8 ball to complete a table run playing 8 ball. I was hitting them good and over rolled perfect shape on the 8 ball for a tiny little hook by one of the 7 stripes.
Ah the hanging curve depends on the precision of the strike to the white. Period, what a relief when the black ball fell. My opponent would have been favorite if it hadn't dropped. Oh what fun.

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