This guy makes Coles shot so uh, Ho Hum.
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Benelli said:

A fucking Joss is not a Treadway, my God...

What a terrible comparison, Joss is about 15 workers banging away Josh is one fucking dude making masterpiece cues.

Jesus....

Show me your Joss that looks like this...
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That looks amazing.

Rusty in Montana said:

Just a suggestion there's always Mike Gulyassy he makes a fine pool cue !

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Isn't he selling his business and moving to the Philippines? I just played with a Gulyassy cue this past weekend and loved it though.

straightline said:

Isn't that the same thing? Minus the extra gifted kid's project...

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I suppose if you want it to be so it could be but a "figment" could be absolutely anything fabricated, possibly even our actual "existence".

Very nice!!

I thought pros ran 100 and out every other time they got to the table. /s

Fore Rail said:

Who are you competing with in your long list of examples?

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Nobody, they are simply ways that people who didnt know what they didnt know have gotten in trouble.

Benelli said:

A fucking Joss is not a Treadway, my God...

What a terrible comparison, Joss is about 15 workers banging away Josh is one fucking dude making masterpiece cues.

Jesus....

Show me your Joss that looks like this...
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Hey ya know what? I think you should report me.

Just a suggestion there's always Mike Gulyassy he makes a fine pool cue !

I've seen monster breaks with a regular or house cue. I've seen terrible breaks with expensive break cues. It matters a little I think, but probably not much. If you look at stats at the pro level, it favors slightly whomever shoots first, so maybe 60% max at the pro tournament level to whomever shoots first. So if you make a ball on the break, you get to shoot first (most games), so you have a slight advantage. So if your break cue helps you to make a ball on the break, at the pro level, you have an advantage.

At the non-pro level, I don't think it matters much at all. There used to be some tours I'd follow with decent non-pro players. Several years the tour winners were just terrible breakers, but they made up for it in other areas.

Personally, I own a jump/break, but almost never use it. Maybe if I did, I'd win a few more matches. Personally though, I don't think it has mattered much.

Coles confessed was, "I need one drink, to take the edge off. But then I can't quit at 1."
So yeah that's The Battle he was fighting at that time. I witnessed the down side of his decline. I also had the privilege to watch him work on the pool table playing Harry all night long to end up 25 grand. Not A bad overtime bonus. He corralled that demon on that occasion.

gregcantrall said:

Ooops almost forgot the story.
At Harry's place playing a thousand a game 1 pocket.
Cole hit a straight back game ball from 3/4 table dead into the heart of the pocket, like a rocket. Ho hum yeah but the straight back had A Dead kiss. He popped whitey 12 inches in the air. The object ball jetted underneath. Easy as well That's what he could do.

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I like that. Gotta try that one.

Ooops almost forgot the story.
At Harry's place playing a thousand a game 1 pocket.
Cole hit a straight back game ball from 3/4 table dead into the heart of the pocket, like a rocket. Ho hum yeah but the straight back had A Dead kiss. He popped whitey 12 inches in the air. The object ball jetted underneath. Easy as well That's what he could do.

Constantine said:

Some players keep a break cue in their pool case. How necessary is this?

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IMO, it really depends on how serious you are. You can definitely play with just one cue, but almost no one does. The fact that all pros have a separate break cue (and pretty much have for decades) is probably an indicator.

In the "old days," I think having a dedicated cue was primarily so you didn't have to change shafts to break because you wanted a different tip (super hard leather or phenolic). [see Dr. Dave's advice: https://drdavepoolinfo.com/faq/break/cue/ "It is best to use a dedicated break cue, which is beefier and has a hard tip (usually phenolic)"]. Folks also believed that a separate cue kept your playing tip from flattening out.

Technology has changed and we now have CF shafts, improved plastics, and also layered tips. I personally believe CF shafts improve breaking speed and consistency, although I haven't seen any empirical data on this. But, at least from a deflection standpoint they should help you break better. Layered tips mushroom less, so maybe that counsels against a separate shaft. Although breaking with an 11.8 might not be optimal.

**edit: Dr. Dave calculated phenolic tips provide ~17% increase in breaking power. So, just that change might justify a different shaft/cue for breaking. https://drdavepoolinfo.com//technical_proofs/new/TP_A-30.pdf

All that said, if you are breaking 15-18MPH, there may not be a big difference between cues as your breaking speed/technique might be the limiting factor. But, when you start to break the balls at 23-25MPH, the increase in performance is more noticeable. And having a larger sweet spot for breaking can also improve the result at higher speeds.

-td (my $0.02; probably worth less though).

-td

Okay, channeling Cole is easy.
My Cole cab driver confessed provides a large uh library that I consider fact Jack.
His best opening line was, "I was the white boy from Oakland and that's why they called me Coal."
The White Boy from Oakland would be a good title for his biography. My favorite bio is McGoorty.

GoldCrown said:

Quit here. Not getting back to you screw that.
A member here just got his 2nd Joss. Said the process was a quality one. The cues are 1st class... absolutely beautiful

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A fucking Joss is not a Treadway, my God...

What a terrible comparison, Joss is about 15 workers banging away Josh is one fucking dude making masterpiece cues.

Jesus....

Show me your Joss that looks like this...