There are 4 promoter spots. He could fill one of those.

The golf club fitting is more important and it is more important for your son at his swing speed etc…. The lie of the golf club and the shaft characteristics will affect the ball flight more than the cue characteristics are going to affect the cueball path. The swing path and angle are going to affect how the sole of the club interacts with the turf and how the clubface interacts with the ball. Shaft flex characteristics matter a lot. The interaction of the tip with the cueball is different and the characteristics of the cue aren’t going to be able compensate for swing issues/characteristics like a golf club can to some degree. I’m not a club fitter and don’t keep up with the developments in golf equipment. But I have had club fittings and seen what tweaking loft/lie/shaft can do.

Cues feel different so the feedback can affect your sense of speed control. But that is hard to quantify. Really the only measurable thing is deflection. And you have to get used to it on a given shaft. The other measurables are weight and length. If you have a cue of reasonable length for you and it is within a range of weights, I don’t see how it is much more than preference. Unless someone can show me the flex characteristics of a shaft or butt affect the cueball differently for players with different strokes, I don’t see cue fitting as similar at all.

KissedOut said:

Wow, Dave, that's amazing and impressive. Well done, young man.

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Thanks, i was fairly young then lol. Hope you're well Rich.

Bob Jewett said:

So, the WPBA has a rule that elite members cannot play in unsanctioned -- and presumably lower level -- women's open events. That seems to me like a reasonable restriction. I guess the UP people could have gotten the women's event sanctioned, but it might have cost a lot.

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I guess it depends on how you define reasonable and how you define elite.

To me it is incredibly unreasonable to fine players for playing in alternative events when they are barely breaking even playing in your sanctioned events. How can you be both "elite" and broke?

Tennesseejoe said:

I am trying to picture the OP's original post. I understand a stun/spin shot, but how close is the cue ball to the object ball referenced in the first post?

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The original post was about a "push", which might have been a double-hit foul, or something else. You're following the tangent, of which I am guilty of wading into, which is about the stun, spin shot.

Bob Jewett said:

So, the WPBA has a rule that elite members cannot play in unsanctioned -- and presumably lower level -- women's open events. That seems to me like a reasonable restriction. I guess the UP people could have gotten the women's event sanctioned, but it might have cost a lot.

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I can partially see it for another competitor "tour", IF they actually had enough of their own well paying events.

But what about stand alone women's only opens? Another post out there...

David in FL said:

I stand corrected.

One barely profitable year in its history for the league.

How many individual teams were in the black?

My point remains.

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And there go those goalposts moving again! I knew you had it in you!

Thought it would just be more efficient to post this instead of in every thread that I see an “AI Bro” regurgitating their slop.

Plus this could potentially have the added benefit of them blocking me or similar so I stop seeing so much of it in every thread.

A no brainer really.

straightline said:

It's a stun, spin shot. You don't have to hit way outside to do it if you hit harder; the case in point.
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PJ uses a 10mm tip so this close to the centerline may not have enough juice. IDK

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I am trying to picture the OP's original post. I understand a stun/spin shot, but how close is the cue ball to the object ball referenced in the first post?

tim913 said:

More than once I’ve had to tell players, who were new to the hall and having trouble making balls, that they were on a snooker table.

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That's nothin'. I've seen 'em rack on a carom table.

A real 12x6 (they say the numbers backwards, being British) forces you to fix your fundamentals or you won't make a ball. And carom forces you to learn things about how the balls work that you only learn slowly at pool.

I am an avid golfer and pool player with 60+ years of experience in each sport. Here is my opinion: golf club fitting is somewhat important for some people. Pool cue fitting is important for no one. Some cues may feel better to a particular person and some cues may feel not good, but that player can practice with either and have very similar results.