couldnthinkof01 said:

They have a handmade line on their website

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Might be my next cue I don’t need. I really like the feel of Joss. Every one I hit with I liked. Never had one. So I finally got one. Glad I did.

Here's a clearer depiction of the contact ellipse. Also apologies to @iusedtoberich who has some visual issues. If you need to know anything about the diagrams, please ask. If not it's all good.


The cool thing about this lick is you can take what you see on the OB and "paste" it on the CB. (blue line on the CB.)

I might have picked up a Joss cue fitting that description from PoolDawg. For less than 800. But then we’d have the same cue.

Many of the Joss cues don’t fit that description. And the points are skinnier than the old full splice. But mine is 4 sharp points, veneers, linen wrap, notched diamond inlays.

DeeDeeCues said:

I haven't seen a joss with sharp points in a while. Not claiming to be an expert on them, only saying that all of them I have seen are inlaid, rounded points.

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They have a handmade line on their website

Lowell said:

In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?

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Any pointed cue from a decent maker will be above $800

Lowell said:

In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?

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I haven't seen a joss with sharp points in a while. Not claiming to be an expert on them, only saying that all of them I have seen are inlaid, rounded points.

ShootingArts said:

When I have to aim at a point I can't see I walk to where the point I need to hit the object ball is. Then I lock onto that spot with my eyes and walk back to where I am shooting from. Pool tables don't move and if I really feel the need I can slide a hand on the outside of the table. Might take a few tries at first to not lose your attention on the spot but without much practice it works.

Hu

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Often - at least on pool pockets, you can visualize the whole thing from where you stand. There are many imaging tricks not the least of which is the tangent line. You need to see the perpendicular relationship but that should be built into the way a player observes the table.

gregcantrall said:

There was a court case in the state of Washington where a losing party in a money match claimed it was a gambling debt and therefore uncollected.
The judge found it was a contest of skill with elements of luck. They were required to pay the debt. [emoji2369]

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My recollection is that usually pool is treated as a game of skill, where wagers between participants are not illegal. Bets on the rail is a different story.

Games of chance (like dice or roulette) and games of mixed skill and chance (like poker) are usually the ones that are illegal except at licensed casinos.

Both the above would depend on state laws.

Whether this distinction matters under the definition in the BBB, I don’t know.

do you really want refs to make calls on what they think the physics is of the shot or the aftermath of it?

what if balls are close and you get a legit force follow and the ref says the physics say your ball cant go that far forward so its a foul.
or many other situations. your understanding and his may be entirely different.

how about a ref. on a seesaw two guys equal weight one is sitting on it and another gets on and it goes up. wouldn't he rule that the guy who just got on is heavier?

two guys have a contest to see who can suck more water up a long tube. at 34 feet they both cant suck up any more. so the ref rules its a tie as they are exactly equal in sucking power.

how much physics are a normal pool ref. supposed to know or be able to understand.