Jaden said:

There's another reason that from time immemorial that the instruction has been to have cb contact at the bottom of the pendulum. If the arm is swinging forward, even from just gravity, there is less chance of deceleration. If you strike the ball after the bottom of the pendulum, you have to be actively moving the cue forward to avoid deceleration.

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I haven't paid much attention to pro play in years. I have to admit overall level of play for both men pro's and women has improved fairly recently. I notice Allison Fisher is still hanging in there though. She has lost a little bit to top women today but no doubt in my mind that age and eyesight are the major problems. If she was in her prime today I think she would still dominate after watching her matches from 12-25.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that almost all pro players hit the ball late. Look at them addressing the cue ball and you will see the forearm is past ninety degrees to the floor or the line of the cue either. Only a slipstroke or a stroke slip will allow a person to hit the cue ball early or at the bottom of the stroke. Ten years ago there might have been a half dozen pro players male or female, that didn't hit the cue ball late in their stroke. Those that didn't had a lot of wrist action with very few exceptions. Jasmin had as perfect a pendulum as I have ever seen when she first came to the pro ranks. I don't know if that is still true.

If I were an instructor I would insist students addressed the cue ball so that the angle between cue stick and forearm was ninety degrees or more at contact of the shot. I don't care what stroke they like, I just want their muscles to still be contracting at the same or a very slightly faster rate as they try to power through the cue ball. Not concerned with what the stick actually does, focusing on what the muscles are doing here.

A major advantage of the slipstroke, your muscles are still contracting when you strike the cue ball assuming your forearm was at roughly ninety degrees when you addressed the cue ball.

A little bit of clarification here. I am considering the angle formed by the points at the tip, grip, and elbow when describing angles.

Hu

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ShootingArts said:

Sounds reasonable. The reason I tried to develop a constant speed stroke. Next to impossible, I never succeeded. Using gentle acceleration I developed cue ball control within an inch playing position.

I have to admit that I used precision position play to block myself more often than the other player. Had to let them think they were in the game. They could look at the last game, "If just that one shot had went different..."

A canny road player scouted me for three nights then decided to talk instead of playing. "The first night I thought you were lucky. The second night I still thought it might be luck. Nobody in the world gets as lucky as you three nights in a row." I was only busted a few times in years though.

Smooth acceleration got me pinpoint control to half a cue ball, sometimes a lot less when I deliberately shot into ridiculous gaps or hung myself by a quarter inch or less back before jump cues. I could have still jumped but the idea was to hook myself. Back in the eighties when the cloth was still thicker than today's and my eyes were better I used to be able to rock a ball and get in behind it.

I can't say it is true for everybody but for myself I was much more consistent with a gentle acceleration than trying to hold a constant speed. Constant speed seemed to be the holy grail and I tried very hard to make it work. Thing is that requires a transition between acceleration and a constant speed and was far more difficult than a gradual acceleration.

Hu

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gentle acceleration also means the speed isn't changing much in the area you are attempting to hit so that does work.

I have one for 1,125 family n friends or Zelle
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Comes with a extension as well
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The Derby isn't really about the pros. It's about the high level amateurs testing themselves and potentially being able to play a big name. That and the action. As has been mentioned before, there are a number of pro players not at this event, but all three tournaments filled up and had long waiting lists. Player attendance won't really ever be an issue with the Derby, no matter who complains about it.

Im running the Mezz Ignite. Have been for a over a year now. Love it. I have a Revo, I ddnt like the way it played so it's a break shaft now. I tried a few of the others and just like the Mezz the most.

Like I said in a previous post... if it it was anything like the Mezz or better at a more comparable price, I would have definitely considered it after hitting with it.

Im still going to hit with it when I get there on Tuesday. It might be the nuts... who knows... but at $800 I should be able to set it on the table and it just make balls for me.

jayman said:

I am on light duty for a while and was thinking about purchasing access to the DCC but since the pay options didn't suit me I passed. Now I don't think I even care. I did not realize it wasn't like years past when anyone who was anyone was there. Oh well...

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