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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

dr_dave
JPB2 said:
the shirt or hair fouls are just begging for arguments in leagues. It is a rules nit’s dream. I see where you are coming from, but without a ref it’s asking for disputes. Asking for a hit to be watched doesn’t come up as much so doesn’t cause the same problems, although the way people go about it can be an issue.
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A shirt or hair can move a ball just like a light touch from a hand, boob, belly, or cue. So should there be a foul only if a ball gets moved a lot and not a little? That could really create arguments.
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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

David in FL
JPB2 said:
Didn’t the 2023 rules of golf allow a local rule modification to stroke and distance in some situations. I admit I haven’t kept up well with the rules. And to answer your question in the other post I.e. why have cue ball only as an option— because people are going to use cue ball only rules because all ball fouls will cause more arguments in some leagues and situations. Maybe all ball fouls shouldn’t cause issues, but there is good reason to think there will be disputes.
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Even so, it's the rules that specify when certain, specific local changes are authorized...

Within the rules.

Not just because...
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Chalkysticks app review 3c

nataddrho
Bob Jewett said:
If you want an accurate carom simulator, I think you need to get something like Virtual Pool or Shooter's Pool. Chalkysticks doesn't even have pool balls the right size for the table, from what I've seen.
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I vote for caromball.com The physics are specifically designed for carom, long angles and proper slide and rail mechanics for 61.5mm balls

I used to play Virtual Pool 4 and you can’t adjust the parameters to get it to behave like a carom table
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Jill Hawk cue cases!

SmoothStroke
Trav D said:
Just sharing most of my collection from Clyde and Jill. I really like working with these two and value their friendship. They are super easy to work with and it is always a pleasure. They are second to no one!!! It is needless to say that I love envelope style cases! I’ll always have a few of these on order from them as long as I am able! Enjoy the photos. None are for sale! Just posting to share the work and quality that Jill Hawk cases are putting out!! They are incredible in person and built to last lifetimes!
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Very nice
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Another cue ID.

Chopdoc
cue fix said:
I would say unmarked Helmstetter. Model 86-10
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That sounds about right but I can't confirm yet. Happily been away from my PC all day. I might stop in my office late tonight, we'll see.

A refinish can remove markings, but I believe I have seen unmarked originals as well. In addition, some model variations not intended originally for the US market were unmarked or marked differently from what I can tell.
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Looking for a cue

muskyed
PhilosopherKing said:
jacobycustomcues.com

Jacoby HB2

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I have that same Jacoby, incredable cue. I did have them build me a 30" 12.5 mm shaft instead of the standard 29" 12.75 mm shaft.
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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

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One more post on the subject for tonight - maybe. :)

The USGA was formed in 1894. In conjunction with the R & A Golf Club of St Andrews which was formed in 1754 they have governed the game of golf & it's rules. The R & A in it's current form dates back to 2004.

There has been nothing else governing the game of golf.

Pool can't say the same thing & IMHO that is why we hare having these discussions about rules & leagues & multiple organizations etc etc.
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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

J
David in FL said:
Not really.

For the most part, the rules are the rules.

There are a very few exceptions and local rules that are implemented, but they aren't significant enough to change the game, and they only apply at the very highest level and only at a specific venue.

Of course, like any game, gamblers can/will modify games to suit whatever they want to do, but that has nothing to do with the actual rules of the game itself...
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Didn’t the 2023 rules of golf allow a local rule modification to stroke and distance in some situations. I admit I haven’t kept up well with the rules. And to answer your question in the other post I.e. why have cue ball only as an option— because people are going to use cue ball only rules because all ball fouls will cause more arguments in some leagues and situations. Maybe all ball fouls shouldn’t cause issues, but there is good reason to think there will be disputes.
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