Happy Sweet Sunday!

Saw this at the flea market today

clutch play by pijus, 6 racks in a row, up 9-4

Vahmurka said:

They say it otherwise: everybody has their price

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Who are they? It's sad you know no one with integrity.

Here is an up close of the tips and in my opinion they are the original champion tips as I don’t think they are dark enough to be triangles

Johnny Rosato said:

Are those Triangle tips with a pad or are they Chandivert Champion tips?

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Johnny Rosato said:

Are those Triangle tips with a pad or are they Chandivert Champion tips?

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Paul_#_ said:

Seller required minimum bid of $425 and provided photos and this nothing-like description of the "Vintage Unknown 2-piece Billiard Pool Cue":

Up for your consideration is this sharp looking vintage cue. The weight is 19.2 oz. Butt half measures 29 1/4, the shaft is 29 1/2, together it's 58 3/4. Stainless pin is 5/16•18. Cue has 4 points with multicolor veneers and an Irish green wrap that is nice and tight.​

Shaft lifts at center when rolled, butt half has tiny daylight at the wrap area when rolled. Please review all photos as they are part of the description and best way to determine if the condition meets your standards.​

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"nothing-like description"

It's a 14 pin. and I don't know what an "irish green wrap" is except an obfuscation.


The cue is a bit of a train wreck, but I find it very curious. I would buy it in a heartbeat for cheap, but certainly not anything like the starting bid. I just dig curiosities.

I downloaded the pics and looked at them on my big monitor.

The machining marks haven't been polished out of the joint collar or butt sleeve. There are rough grinding marks on the end of the pin.

I think that black butt sleeve might be synthetic, not ebony or any kind of wood.

The wrap looks like natural fibers to be but hasn't been pressed or polished.

tides turning. pijus up 6-4

WildWing said:

The most interesting about it is it has that dacron wrap that Palmer used in their second catalog cues. It wasn't linen, but resembled it. No other resemblance to Palmer cues.

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I saved the pics and put them up on my big high res monitor. I don't think it's Dacron. It looks like it might be natural fibers.

Dacron, for those that might not know (I know you know) is a brand of polyester. It is used in many things, including textiles and fishing line. Cortland did and still does sell Dacron fishing line (at least they still did the last time I looked). There are have been numerous brands of Dacron fishing line, including green spec.

Nylon is another can of worms. It's a different synthetic with different properties and feel. It has also been used on many pool cues.

I have seen the common synthetic fishing lines used, and also threads meant for the textile industry. I have an ebony Titlist converted by Ricco Cervantes that is wrapped with nylon thread.

As for Dacron, GB did use it on some cues, I have pictures of one in my wraps folder, I think I grabbed that pic here on AZB years ago.

The synthetics don't sand/press/polish like natural fibers.

Generally, people very often confuse the names and materials a lot.

pijus with a great jump followed by a triple combo, to tie 4-4. very nice

I had a Verl Horn cue in the mid to late 90's I don't remember the buttcap being like that or having a VH on it. It was a beautiful cue but hit like a brick.

Is that you emailing me?

Is it live on youtube? Can't find it when I search for livestream "Hanoi Open 2025"

336Robin said:

A few years back, I had some Elks installed that were great tips. If you get good ones they are hard to beat.

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Elks are surprisingly good tips. They fell from popularity, but they are a decent tip unless you get a bad one. I've feel taht consistency is pretty decent lately, at least in the last few years.

The only "issue" is that without pressing or dudding they will mushroom somewhat. That's not a big deal if you have a lathe or tool to deal with that.

I put one on for a buddy who was firmly in the "layered tip club" and he liked it. He is young enough that he had never played with a non layered tip. And the things are like 50 cents.

My amazon order for triangles that was supposed to be here in 2 days just now started saying it's not been shipped so I cancelled it. I'm getting some Royal Oaks for him to try out.

My guess would be the costs in that market. Real estate, taxes, license and permitting fees, even labor costs are among the highest you'll find anywhere.

Tom's not wrong either and local and state leadership haven't shown any desire to change that.

Sadly, I think you'd struggle to think of a place less conducive to starting a new business.