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List of pro players who stick to wood as their playing shaft

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Flakeandrun said:
Besides fan-girling, I would say such discussion could potentially help decide the actual value of a cue or shaft. Is it really necessary to spend $500 on a $5 carbon tube? Why are so many players using this, that or the other? How much do they get paid to do that? Etc etc
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Becue pays no one to use their cues, I swore when I got back into pool I would never use CF, I am a nobody, no one cares what I use, as the average Joe pool player all I can say is that Becue is a great company and I am fortunate to have done business with them, my Becue is the best hitting cue I have ever owned bar none, Everyone should use what works for them, there is no right or wrong, only what works for YOU, I don't use Becue because it's CF, I use Becue because it is the best hitting cue I have ever owned.
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Old School 2 Pushout 9 Ball

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sjm said:
Even those who were action but not tournament players, with rare exception, abandoned rollout 9ball decades ago. May it rest in peace. It's the first version of 9ball that I played, but I found it just about unwatchable.

Still, those who enjoy playing things the old way can play rollout even today. First and foremost, pool is supposed to be fun. Still, I don't think I have seen 9ball played that way for about 30 years.
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To me, it was way more interesting and watchable.

Today's version is too sterile and bland.
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Old School 2 Pushout 9 Ball

HawaiianEye
garczar said:
A lot of little variations. We never did what you describe here. You could push anywhere and incoming player could shoot, pass back or push.
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In my scenario, the incoming player had the option of shooting the shot being able to hit a rail first since he opted to shoot. Then, if he hit the ball and made it or otherwise didn't make some other type of foul it was okay.

Only the pusher was forced to hit the ball without hitting a rail first.

This kept people from constantly pushing out to completely blocked shots.
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Old School 2 Pushout 9 Ball

sjm
Even those who were action but not tournament players, with rare exception, abandoned rollout 9ball decades ago. May it rest in peace. It's the first version of 9ball that I played, but I found it just about unwatchable.

Still, those who enjoy playing things the old way can play rollout even today. First and foremost, pool is supposed to be fun. Still, I don't think I have seen 9ball played that way for about 30 years.
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Old School 2 Pushout 9 Ball

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Korsakoff said:
That’s so long ago. That’s how I learned to play 9 Ball.

Seems like the breaker might break dry or make a ball. If they were hooked, they could roll out to a position where they might be able to make a difficult shot or at least have position for a decent safe.

This is where it gets gray. Seems like if they rolled out to where you could see the object ball, you’d take the shot. Otherwise, you passed and the opponent shot.

I vaguely remember what garczar described with being able to push back. That may have come later or been an offshoot, but mostly we just played the one push out.
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If I remember correctly, you could not push out to a position where the object ball was completely hidden where the incoming player couldn't hit the ball without touching a rail first.

If that happened, the incoming player could make the pusher shoot and the pusher had to hit the object ball without touching a rail first or it was a foul.
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10-Ball Last Rule

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Bob Jewett said:
Which is how all major competitions should have been played forever. If a league or group of amateur players feels the players shouldn't be bothered to avoid touching balls randomly -- it will spoil their enjoyment, or something -- they can always make up their own CBFO rule. The CSI CBFO rules are reasonably complete.

Mike Zuglan has a sort of in between rule. Some touches are fouls and some are not, depending on the timing.
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EVERYBODY should play all-ball fouls ALL the time.

I don't like people moving balls around and then having to try to replace them.
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WPA Rules Question

GideonF
ctyhntr said:
I agree, it's a terrible call. Why not make the first one a warning? I'm sure news will travel fast in the tournament, and players will be aware not to intentionally break this rule, now that's it clarified.
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It’s a terrible rule, I agree. But as Bob said, ingrained habits are hard to break. The players “know” the rule but they’ve been pulling balls out for as long as they have been playing pool.

It’s like the tournament in the Philippines where you had to expressly call the 10b even if it is straight in. Shane forgot and didn’t call it. I believe he unscrewed and forfeited in protest to the dumb rule.
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WPA Rules Question

ctyhntr
jay helfert said:
In other words a really bad rule in the way it is written. I remember recently when a WPA referee called a foul on a woman player who pulled a ball out of the pocket after the game was over and the cue ball was no longer rolling. Terrible call!
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I agree, it's a terrible call. Why not make the first one a warning? I'm sure news will travel fast in the tournament, and players will be aware not to intentionally break this rule, now that's it clarified.
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