Todd Carpenter. John Davis blank. PM me.

skogstokig said:

the saudi WC seems highly unlikely at this point

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Maybe, but I doubt the WPC won't be held at all. You'd think the Saudis would let it be moved if necessary. Guess we will know soon enough.

Read every word and trashing is not what I took away from his comments. I read him saying there are better cheaper ways of achieving the same goal. And I would bet that Bob has tried similar devices and his opinion is formed by experience.

GoldCrown said:

New ProAm … long rails are 1 piece … that helps.. already aligned.
$11,000 price go up ? My feelings are always buy new if the money is there. New is new. It’s never a mistake.

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NEW means that you get to use it 1st... that's all it means....

the saudi WC seems highly unlikely at this point

Bump

TheGrandWazoo said:

This is a discussion forum. Bob’s expertise is beyond reproach. IMO he was not trashing it , more saying there are better options. Your sensitivity seems to suggest you have some attachment to this training aid. Rather than call Bob out, how about you elaborate on why you think Bob is wrong. Again this is a discussion forum.

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Did you not read what he said? He flat out trashed it. How do you not understand that? He has not even tried using this aiming aid.
If you're selling a used car online, and I comment and say, "Man, that car sucks, there's better, cheaper cars elsewhere". That's pretty rude of me to say that, right? Especially when I've never even tried your car out. But hey, this is a discussion forum and I can talk shit about your car, right?
We're all here because we like pool, right? I didn't know that it was a requirement to speak up and ignorantly talk trash about something a person is trying to sell.

You can teach someone the basics of pool and get them to hit some passable shots in a couple hours. Good luck doing that on the golf course. This shouldn’t even be a debate.

The only moving part in a decent pool stroke is the forearm.

This is a discussion forum. Bob’s expertise is beyond reproach. IMO he was not trashing it , more saying there are better options. Your sensitivity seems to suggest you have some attachment to this training aid. Rather than call Bob out, how about you elaborate on why you think Bob is wrong. Again this is a discussion forum.

td873 said:

Wow. Throwing Bob under the bus so soon after joining. I mean, Bob’s been around a minute and knows a lot of things. Bob’s opinion vs “new user.” Hmmmm

I also agree it is gimmicky and probably not useful for most people. But like many pool training things, some folks will find it useful.

-td

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Just because I'm a new member doesn't mean I just started and don't know a thing or two about pool. He's the one talking trash about something he's never used. If anyone is throwing anybody under the bus, it's him. Apparently in all his years, he's never learned from his parents that if he has nothing nice or useful to say to not say it?

Jaden said:

I was a decent golfer ~10-12 handicap. I quit for many years and tried to take it back up. Shanked everything, not long after was when I discovered that my left shoulder was gone, no rotator cuff movement and a 3 inch bone spur. Now closing in on a year after shoulder replacement surgery I need to go hit the range and see if I'm still shanking everything.

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David in FL said:

Could be worse. You could be 67 and 560...

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I'm 67 and played in a 610 and under 10 ball 180 miles away from home last year. Full field of 48 and I headed home after losing the point match at 8 pm. There were about 4 matches backed up on the losers side. All the kids there couldn't believe I was quitting but after 11 hours a man's got to know his limits. Probably would have waited until 1 am and got third place anyway

Funny how what we want to get out of the game evolves as we get older.

George the Greek said:

The 2002 World Championship would've been Hendy"s 8th if he had beaten Peter Ebdon. He had 16 centuries during that event and he put it to O"Sullivan 17-13. O"sullivan had been saying he'll send Hendry back to his sad little life.

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He's often said he approached the final with the wrong attitude as in his head he'd pretty much won it when he beat Ronnie. Think it's one of his biggest regrets.

Ebdon is a good guy. Met him at a charity night he'd driven a long distance to play in for free. Was the only one of the players that turned up with a waistcoat as if he was playing in a proper tournament.

El Toro said:

That's a lot of smack talk for someone who hasn't used them. Plus, you have no idea how much these even are. Seems pretty ignorant to me.

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Wow. Throwing Bob under the bus like that. I mean, Bob’s been around a minute and knows a lot of things. Bob’s opinion vs “new user.” Hmmmm

I also agree it is gimmicky and probably not useful for most people. But like many pool training things, some folks will find it useful.

-td