Island Drive said:

Or you can play past midnight and again that same Sunday morning when your done Sunday morning after you sleep, get up then/shower/shave and go to breakfast FAST.

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Is it 4 balls racked like that? 1 2 3 9

SBC said:

The timed speed pool on barboxes that Ultimate Pool does is not pool.

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To each his own. Not only is it pool, it's pool in the cauldron of fire. I like seeing players who normally agonize over shots freewheel instead and let their inner pool monkeys just make the shots. Joe Prince had a 38-second runout last week that was a masterclass.

And the equipment is getting to be top-notch. Brunswick is really honing that table, and the 4.25" pockets are no joke. Now if they would just make the tables in, say, Alabama, I'd be all over one.

For me back in 1980 Jim McDermott, then John Guffey in 1990 and Paul Dayton in 2009!

Lowell said:

Seoa was playing very well but it looks like Sofia sorta gave up that last rack.

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they both ran into monsters

Still looking.

It’s a buyer market so, nice cue, GLWS @10k

An Artist Proof (AP) Predator Panthera is a very small pre-production or special-edition version of the cue that was not part of the regular numbered production run. These cues were typically made for review, photography, trade shows, sponsored players, or to be retained by the designer or Predator. They are much rarer than the standard Limited Edition cues.


For Predator Panthera cues, you’ll generally find three types:

• Standard production – Regular production cue with no special numbering.
• Limited Edition (LE) – Individually numbered (for example, 15/100).
• Artist Proof (AP) – Marked “AP” or “Artist Proof.” Some are numbered (e.g., AP 3/10), while others are simply marked “Artist Proof” or may not have a number at all. There are documented Panthera Artist Proof cues with no edition number.

From a collector’s standpoint:

• AP Pantheras are usually more desirable because they are produced in much smaller quantities.
• Assuming identical condition, an AP version can often command a premium over a standard production cue, although the exact premium depends on the specific Panthera model, originality, and current market demand.

Since I know you’re involved in high-end cue collecting, I’d also mention that Predator is one of the most frequently counterfeited cue brands. If you’re looking at an AP Panthera, I would verify:

• The engraving and AP markings.
• The serial number (if applicable).
• The original shaft and butt.
• Original paperwork, case, or certificate if it came with one.
• Provenance (original owner or dealer)

Mike Durbin out of Sullivan Illinois is one of the best people I have ever had the pleasure to meet. He is a worth of knowledge and will stop whatever he is doing to answer questions or help with anything you need.

CajunPopeye said:

On the phone, Dan Janes. I've correspond via email with Steve Janes as well. A pleasure to deal with both.

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Back in 1989 I was in MD for a short bit. Called the shop and asked if I could stop by and design a cue. I don't recall all the steps we went through, but we spent a good amount of time with pen/ink and colored pencils coming up with a design.
Most recently, I worked with Jake at Pechauer to make some alterations to a P19-R.
Both Dan and Jake were great to work with.

Chicagoplayer said:

You are mistaken. That is not what is happening.

?You want aggression, why?, that’s what boxing or MMA is for.
Watch action matches rather than pool .
Pool is a skill sport.


You just love Golf then

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Yes people want to see reactions in the players playing the game....not robots.

Matchroom is the best we have and sure there is a ton of tournaments. Matchroom owns US pool so they have made whatever changes they like....but that doesn't mean I have to like everything.

The short races with shootouts that Predator does are lame.

The timed speed pool on barboxes that Ultimate Pool does is not pool.