bbb said:

thanks for the video dan
btw
nice looking old school cue
who made it?

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Thanks. George Somethinorother.

7stud said:

I do. I practice shooting banks off the edge of the template--you do need a shallow angle into the edge of the template, otherwise the OB will just roll over the template. That way in tournaments if my opponent leaves the template on the table, I have three extra rails to work with.

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If your opponent leaves it on the table, can't you remove it?

mikemosconi said:

One would need experience with many various combinations

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Cole would go through many shafts all made to the same specs to find a "good one". When I held his cues for collateral he had 6 shafts and only claimed to shot with one of them. His specs included stainless joint and ivory ferrule.
I did get a chance to hit balls with a couple of Joss West cues with ivory joint and ferrule. The hit was more lively than stainless joint. The micro difference in the vibration at hit made it feel good. Like a musical instrument compared to a hammer or club. The feedback is crucial for those with a touch. Bangers, not so much.
Edit: And oh yeah, Water Buffalo leather. Not just any Water Buffalo either. When he redeemed his cue the first thing he checked was for his baggie of tips. His maker of tips had passed and his apprentice just didn't make them as good.

I’ll buy it

middleofnowhere said:

I guess I got on the subject and I just can't stop. I have a friend who opened a very nice bar. Unfortunately he's dead now the bar is still there though. You would not believe what you can get for nothing if you start looking. He found a shopping center that was being demolished and they were able to go in there and salvage anything they wanted.

They got every single thing they needed to build the bar from wood paneling, barstools, bathroom fixtures. There was a lounge had been in the shopping center they were able to dismantle the bar and take it. This thing was beautiful it must have cost thousands when it was built.

They got all sorts of lighting fixtures and I just can't go on with everything that they they got out of that place but it was enough to build the entire bar for relatively nothing. New coolers might be the only thing they really had to spring for.

Start to finish from the time they started the project and he had a location three months the doors were open and he was like hardly nothing out of his pocket. I just throw this out there as food for thought.

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I bought out the last room in Syracuse after a bad fire. 10k for 17 tables. Literally crawling through ashes. Stripped the Gold Crowns to wood and repainted them. Scrubbed the smoke off everything else with a special product.

Rented a 32 x 115 space in an old strip mall for 2750 a month x 5 years, 3k a month years 6 to 10. Demolished the entire space, redid drywall/electrical/ some suspended ceiling. New carpet.

Bought new balls, reclothed the Gold Crowns, Valleys and billiard table. My buddy rebuild lights for the barbox and more cue lickers. All thid cost under 30k.

Over a few years I replaced 7 of the Gold Crowns with Diamonds from Diamond Dave Eghdahl for 5000 to 6000 each.

If you want to build a player's room and a cool joint for the public, it can be done. The real work comes after.

Baby Huey said:

Is Pat looking to unseat DCC as the premier multi pool games event?

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He hast to do some changes, Helfert also reflected this. Or like I said earlier, tag along the TX USOPEN9Ball Rumor.

or1pkt said:

I watched a lot of it on YouTube and enjoy it minus Siegals commentary as he is absolutely atrocious and unbearable in my opinion! I just can’t respect or stomach the guy! Give me Frost, Incardona, or double J any day!

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E. Coaster...................

jay helfert said:

Did I ever tell you the story of playing Waterdog when he was high on LSD? I had no idea who he was at the time. I just took him for some crazy hippy. And for all his money!

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Uh oh another trigger. I played slow pitch softball and we won our recreational league. I played one game on a hit of orange sunshine (in the barrel tab). I only told one team mate. I told him with directions to just remove me if I acted uh strange.. it was a success experience that time. I hit 4 for 4 and even caught a line drive at short stop. The traces and trails were awsome. The next acid trip, not so much. But I survived and did figure out My Religion.

Steal for 60 bucks.

Looks like cheap jump break cue thst could be found on all the usual cheap web sites

Mensabum said:

I cant play for shit while stoned.

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Yeah but it sure was fun. Well what I remember.
Different strains had different effect. A relaxed and carefree attitude was garentee. Playing better, uh not so much.
Let's see, killer KGB was a strain that had me laying on the lawn and hanging on to the grass with both hands .

jay helfert said:

The mid 60's Mustangs were the big thing back then (and even now) but the Camaro's were far better cars. You had one of the best ones!

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The 64 Mustangs handled like crap. A cute car but no good for road race. My Camaro held the road a couple of times I was sure I was going inti the ditch. Yikes. IROC using Camaros was validation of it as a Road race car. The GTO was good for drag races not road races. I found that out right away.

thanks for the video dan
btw
nice looking old school cue
who made it?

Daves custom cues said:

Still hoping to get one built before Christmas, but time is running out fast on that one...

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Just caught up on this thread. Its really cool to see the progress being made. Cant wait to see the finished product!

Well the " hit" is, I think, defined as the feedback one receives through their hands and up through the stroke arm as the cue strikes the cue ball. In logical thinking, I assume that if a cue shaft is totally flush with and tight to the cue butt- that neither the type of joint screw nor whether flat face or piloted joint would have any affect at all on the hit.

So, perhaps we can narrow this down to the cue tip hardness, shaft taper, wood or CF shaft, cue butt joint material, and cue butt composition material ( type of wood). There are way too many variables to identify one cue component as being solely responsible for the " hit" of a cue.

The combination of these variables in a given cue is a totally subjective matter as to how one would feel about a particular cue.

One would need experience with many various combinations of tip hardness, shaft type ( wood,CF), shaft tapers, cue joint materials, and cue butt woods; to truly find their perfect match.

There is no right or wrong answer, and even those who have the most experience with varied cue component combinations, can only truly speak for themselves as to " hit" preference.

MY ideal: soft to medium hardness tip on a wood shaft with 14 to 16 inch 12.7 MM pro taper into an ivory sleeved wood cue butt joint with a straight maple forearm having four ebony points.

The joke is on the kids wanting, and expecting . . . and getting . . . and their unsatisfied expectations. They, sheepishly, think it is very funny and laugh like hell. Try it. Boredom causes many things to happen.

I have the first four pointer he ever made. Bought it at the 1991 US Open from Dave, if my memory serves. Mike Webb fancied it up with some butt inlays and replaced white stuff ferrules for more recent, better playing material. I just hit with it the other day and it still plays well. I’d have to roll it, etc. to know further. Why are you interested in one of his ?