iusedtoberich said:

Am I the only person who has no idea who she is? The ad sure is nice though

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Lilbitfurthur said:

I have not had good luck with sending cues in for refinishing.... samsara never returned my cue so a total loss. Does the company you mentioned have a good track record?

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measureman said:

ings true with me.
That was a quote from FDR.

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Zerksies said:

That many i would just get the cue refinished. Profecient is about $250

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ShootingArts said:

When meeting someone I used to act like I was doing some serious double knuckle gold mining then stick the hand out for a shake and keep it out. The looks on some people's faces was priceless but most eventually shook hands. Custom and courtesy are hard to ignore!

Hu

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BRKNRUN said:

@1:00 in he explains the method. It not only works to a pocket.......it also works when kicking at a ball.....even down to a specific "side" of a ball.....which becomes very helpful on kick safes.

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What I like about this method is it is geometrically accurate (assuming no conditional changes)....it is all done right on the table....and after you have done it a while....you can visualize really easy with no or minimal cue......Typically I can visualize the track lines....X and rail contact point right away....if it is a ball to ball "off" angle...I use my cue to find the line to the OB contact point to the rail and visualize where the X is.

I can't remember if it was in the 99 critical shots in pool book or a Dr Cue BCA demonstration at the Riviera many moons ago...but I have always just referred to it as the "mini mirror" since that is kind of what it is based on.....I think it may have evolved over the years to the X system IDK.

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fish2 said:

Head over to the Ask a Cue Maker section.

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nail polish, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, rubbing compound, polishing compound, mcguires ceramic, trewax.

its not perfect but i cant feel it when playing and dont mind the scar.

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skip100 said:

He should just say that then, not make shit up that’s obviously wrong to anyone with a brain.

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GideonF said:

A good write up from Domenick Dunn:

Duong Duc Dunn match recap. [emoji1264][emoji1320][emoji89][emoji385]

Hell of a race to 120 battle it was.
[emoji89] [emoji1264] [emoji739] [emoji2528] [emoji1659]
Duong gets the win 120/93

Day 1 - 30-18 Duong wins
Day 2 - ended 60/56 Duong leading
(Shaw closed the gap winning 38/30 on day)
Day 3- ended 90/84 The day of drama.
(super close score of 30/28 on the day)
Then day 4 was night night 30/9.

One of the better ones we have seen in a while.
Pockets were like 3.9” w massive crowd.
The fans make Vietnam pool so beautiful.
They come out and support massively!
It was hot and condition were tough.

It made for more misses and more play.
Which as a fan, yah gotta love.
No one wants to see a run out fest on buckets.

The match had it all. Lead changes and drama.
Everytime match would get close, there would be complaining about chalk or soft breaking & other things.

This is all expected in a gambling match.
It’s rare you don’t see it so idk why anyone suprised.

Social media was buzzing.
Many sharing opinions that weren’t there and don’t understand what 2+2 equals.
Unfortunately after day 3, Shaw took to fb to clarify what is happening and his perception and thoughts by replying to some fans

Well many viewed him as disrespectful and rude etc. which I don’t think he was, there’s pressure and $ on the line. He took time to explain what’s going on and he wasn’t happy. No big deal.

Also, How cool is it that the players actually reply to the fans to help them understand their perception. What other sport can you interact on social media w the player so easily. Shaw does it and get demolished online.[emoji2357]

If anyone watched the match, you can see the cue ball was dirty from Duongs chalk.
When your siting a ball to pot, it’s distracting and can cause skids. That’s why he would have ball cleaned often. Not end of world.

Both broke soft many times & Duong got lucky a ton of times. It’s frustrating being a player and watching luck happen. I bet a lot on Duong personally so I was loving watching the luck happen. [emoji1787] Duong also played good as heck at times. He earned his win and no one taking that away.

But your blind if you think cue ball wasn’t dirty, both players didn’t soft break at times and Duong didn’t get more rolls lol cause those are facts and that’s coming from a guy who was team Duong (me).

Well anyway , you always got a few idiots.
Vietnam has arguably the best fan base and it’s a beautiful place. But u always got bad apples everywhere in every country. Well a few of those apples decided to write Shaw’s family and threaten their lives etc.

Have you seen the Philadelphia eagles win a Super Bowl & destroy their own city & harm others in celebration. Yeah we got clowns in USA too. They everywhere.

Needless to say going into day 4, Shaw wasn’t in it mentally rightfully so. Def shouldn’t have been something he had to deal with. People don’t understand how to not take shit so serious.

You also have to remember that most players are mentally going to give up final day in a long race. But they signed up for the long race so they need to act accordingly. But you would be a fool to not expect a player to give up on final day when trailing by a lot. 95% of players would unless they are Chang or Fedor lol Shaw did have fun with the crowd with the last few racks and they loved it.

I love the fact that Duong played hard til last ball regardless of lead. That was cool. He didn’t freewheel, he gave each shot its respect which is respect to the fans for coming out.

None the less. It is what it is.
Congrats to Duong. Heck of a performance.
The drama shouldn’t take away from his talent and victory! Go celebrate!

Once again, [emoji1264] shows us how big and beautiful pool family they are. Millions of viewers on both Facebook and YouTube. It was amazing seeing the numbers.

They love pool and we love you.

I’d love to see more of these vs Duong.
Huge numbers that view in and great talent.
Who’s next ??????? Fsr, Kaci, chua, oi, wu, capito…..
Then how about svb, Fedor, Yapp?

TIL next time - Duong Duc Dunn. We out. [emoji1365]

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sbrownn said:

This thread is TDLR; as far as I can tell, so I will try to summarize:

1. There is no Diamond lease / share profits program that I could find. They do have a financing program listed here:
   
   

   No Excuse Financing

   Diamond Billiard Products

   diamondbilliards.com
2. Many local operators / vendors (not manufacturers) seem to offer either revenue sharing or lease / rental programs for both Valley and possibly Diamond tables. For example, this site:
   
   

   Valley Coin-Operated Pool Tables for Rent | Player Two

   Transform your space with Player Two's customizable Valley coin-operated pool tables. Perfect for bars and pool halls. Start the fun and boost your revenue today!

   www.playertwo.com
3. I have played on some very nice Valley tables in my 50+ years of playing pool if they are maintained and setup correctly with quality rails plus high grade felt and if the foundations of the tables are sound (rail bolts tighten correctly, slate and its bed are not damaged or warped, pockets are in excellent condition, etc.). Yes, they are not Diamonds, but not every bar wants or needs Diamond tables.
4. On ball sets: Yes, the default Aramith Premier line with the modified stripe balls and the green Valley cougar cue ball (mud ball) can get quite tired over multiple years of use. My recommendation is to get a personal set of Dynasphere Bronze / Vanadium balls for players that care about the hit of a quality set of balls and usually have a quality cue stick or two (one for breaking) that they travel with to one or more bars. But there are some considerations to make when bringing your own balls with your other usual hardware:
   1. The bar table's ball return might not be open and your cue ball does not come down the ball return if a scratch is made. Solutions are:
      1. Use the green Valley cougar cue ball (ugh).
      2. Upgrade to the purple Valley cougar cue ball (a little better one that is labeled as tournament quality and will work with the ball return). Here is a link:
         
         

         Tournament Purple Logo Aramith Magnetic Cue Ball

         This cue ball is made for coin op tables that return the ball at the break end. It does not have the magnet in the middle of the ball however.

         seyberts.com
   2. Look for bars that offer free pool with ball returns open to use your own set or ask the owners if you can rent the table with the ball return opened so you can use your own set. They even might let you keep your ball set behind the bar so you do not have to travel with it (this is what I do and we use either a red circle cue ball or the included Dynaspheres cue ball).

And on a closing note, most bar owners don't really care about the condition of their bar tables. And if they do, they charge more for pool or drinks / food or both. It is about a $1000 on the west coast to do an 8 foot Valley table for quality rails and felt including proper labor and setup. That can be a big hit if an owner has multiple tables that get a good amount of play. Even a bigger hit to the owner if there are clueless players spilling drinks, trying jump or masse shots incorrectly or just sitting on the tables which all result in premature wear and damage.

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