Whose your daddy?

Here's another problem with attempts at mathematical determination of real world phenomena. How was the 30% for any individual shot determined? It has to be based on the real world experience of shooting shots. What was the pool that the average for each individual shot was determined from? What was the distribution of the pool? Was the distribution really averaging every third shot or were there clusters of shots made versus missed. All of that would change the actual probability of making a certain number of shots in a row.
Maybe the player is coming down with flu. Maybe the table was moved last night and has a new roll. Maybe ....

The point is to guess as well as you can how likely something is, based on limited knowledge. If you know how much data went into assumed percentages, you can say how accurate those percentages are. For example a FargoRate with a robustness of only 200 is expected to have something like 25 points of error compared to the player's true average performance in competition. With 10,000 games recorded, the rating is expected to be much closer to the player's true ability.

But, the particular point being discussed is a theoretical one: given that the player is exactly x% to run a rack, and there is no real-world, extraneous interference, and everything goes according to theory, what is his chance to string N racks together in T tries?

Such theoretical understanding can help with real-world predictions.

Whose your daddy?

... Besides using Markov chains and Monte Carlo simulations, I'm not aware of any other methods to solve the problem. That doesn't mean there isn't another way, only that I don't know what it is. Every other method I've tried runs up against the i.i.d. assumption.
It can be done with recursion, but you have to look farther back than just the previous rack. You have to go back eleven racks for the chance the run has already occurred, and then there is necessarily a miss followed by ten runs, so

S(n+1) = S( n) + (1-S(n-10)) * p^10 * q

how are ya'll doing in league ?

Well, the only thing that's changed since the last time I posted in this thread is that I've somehow gotten worse 🤷‍♂️
You and me both, my friend! I quit league after my stroke 4 1/2 years ago. I have lost a portion of my thinking ability and almost all of my stamina (I am literally sucking air after a couple of racks). I petitioned with the league operator 4 years ago to reduce my skill level by one level. She wouldn't do it without a note from my doctor. WTF??? Who is going to go to a heart surgeon to get a note for a pool league operator. Not me. I quit the league. I just about only shoot pool at home with my wife now. Based on my many years experience (17 years) in APA leagues, I'd rate myself a strong sl5 in 8-ball and maybe a weak sl6 in 9-ball. I am rated a 6/7. I refuse to show up every week, pay $8 to have my ass handed to me every match. What fun would that be?

Does playing Pool with Families or Friends mess up your real game??

i play opposite handed on those occasions, and think it's a good tip as it's more useful than a generous handicap
Definitely the time to practice a handy skill to have.
You don't have to be lights-out good with your opposite hand to play the occasional near the side rail shot that you can't reach with your normal hand.
Quickly switch and play the shot as if it's no big deal.
Often your opponent can't do that. Makes you better than him!

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