TexasShooter said:

If you have to ask this question, I would have to say the answer is no. You already question their responsible nature.

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May be true and I don't disagree. This is where a little faith should come in. Give the kids a chance to answer that question. Tell them what is expected and give them the opportunity to live up to that.

I can't imagine having teens an still be questioning if they and their friends are civilized enough to be around furniture.

Bavafongoul said:

Come on….get real…..at 14 years old, there is social peer pressure and lack of prior experience being responsible for the actions of her party guests that are also juveniles. She is a young teen that wants to mingle and have fun with her friends and it seems unrealistic to expect she’s be able to supervise and monitor the actions and behavior of her guests and still have a fun time. She’d more likely behave like a classroom monitor constantly checking and watching everyone to ensure she doesn’t disappoint her dad. It wouldn’t be a party and become more of a baby sitting of her friends which turns into a chore. Hang a remote camera so you can check on them & monitor a location pretty distant from your house.

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The type of post I'd expect from you.

Yes, they are juveniles. That means they aren't fully developed, but they are on their way. This is the exact time to let them learn and utilize responsibility. Something might get damaged. Too bad. That is what you signed up for when you decided to raise kids.

Don't spy on them. That is teaching them that someone else is always responsible while also showing they have no freedom. This world was better before everyone knew about every tiny bad thing that occurred in the world, before every intersection had cameras, when a kid could make a mistake and it didn't live on Flopbook or Tweenter, or Instacrap for eternity.

Let the kids be kids, make them responsible for their actions in this low-stakes environment.

jnwilliams said:

OK- I have a mancave/barndominium 150 yards from house that the Lord gives me great peace in. Diamond professional 8'. I take great care of my stuff...keep my pool room pretty spotless.......My 14 year old daughter had a few friends over and wanted to go shoot pool with her friends...without dad, of course......

What say ye?

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If you have to ask this question, I would have to say the answer is no. You already question their responsible nature.

skor said:

and how does it work? has a 500 player beaten a 700 player in a race to 7 for example?
I doubt that, spotting games won't help a wicker player in 9 ball

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The question is how does Fargo get used in BCA leagues.

Generally you are playing a singles match as a race to 5. Handicapped as such:

0-36 point difference, race to 5
35-62 point difference, 5 to 4
63-108, 6 to 4
109-131, 6-3
132-151, 7 to 3
152 point difference and up, 8 to 3

There is one guy in my league that has to play the 8-3 sets (he is around 640 and will be matched against guys around 480). For the last complete league season he won about 60% of his matches (but some were 7-3 or 6-4 sets). He does talk about what a grind it can be to try to hold someone to 0 or 1 win, because once they reach 2 they are on the hill. (I know that is obvious, but when I really think about it, I appreciate how hard that is in 9 ball).

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jnwilliams said:

As I mentioned, she is an awesome child, and better than most 14 year olds I know, but I wouldn't want her driving on the road by herself at 14, either. She's worth more than a 1000 pool tables, but that doesn't mean I don't want to take care of my stuff and keep it the way I want to keep it. Guess that's why I posed the question. I see both sides of it. Your point is solid. It's just a pool table.

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Nobody is suggesting putting a 14y/o on the road alone. The point is that eventually she will be on the road alone, controlling two tons of potential death.

But the driving thing is meant only as a future responsibility and privilege.

Giving her trust and responsibility in a lower stakes environment (i.e. using a pool table alone with friends) helps with her understanding situational awareness, responsibility, and consequences for the behavior of the group.

As I said before, maybe there should be a few conditions. Supervise for the first half hour. Let them know you will pop in randomly. Tell them if there are any 'sword' fights going on, they will be escorted from the premises and made to sit off your property until they are picked up...and they will be sent a bill for the malicious damage caused.

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My mother employed the illusion tactics in a different manner yet the lesson was uh learned. She only had one hearing ear and that needed the 1950s hearing aid in her glasses. So when I was voicing my objection far too long, she appeared to be flipping the battery holder to the open position disabling the device. So in my 8 year old mind it seemed appropriate to mutter BITCH as I turned to walk away. Can't remember the landing but the blow to the back of the head was significant.

VarmintKong said:

Why should that be a burden for a young lady or man to set a good example? I remind my son every time I drop him off somewhere to be a leader not a follower. Peer pressure is a bitch and kids make mistakes, but in the end we’re raising adults not children.

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Come on….get real…..at 14 years old, there is social peer pressure and lack of prior experience being responsible for the actions of her party guests that are also juveniles. She is a young teen that wants to mingle and have fun with her friends and it seems unrealistic to expect she’s be able to supervise and monitor the actions and behavior of her guests and still have a fun time. She’d more likely behave like a classroom monitor constantly checking and watching everyone to ensure she doesn’t disappoint her dad. It wouldn’t be a party and become more of a baby sitting of her friends which turns into a chore. Hang a remote camera so you can check on them & monitor a location pretty distant from your house.