Chopdoc said:

I have two of these cues, but these are not my pictures. Penn Ray is the brand. Import from the 80's. I see similarities.


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I wish my cue had that weight bolt. Honestly that weight bolt is closer to a certain era JW bolts than mine.

I see similarities too, but I also see differences. The shaft is 13.5mm with an ivory ferrule and different railroad tracks.

has the family said send us pics of your cues and we will return them? or give some kind of proof.?

fastone371 said:

Seems like a lot of exaggerating going on here. Valley cue balls may not play like a red circle or a measle ball but they dont make the game unplayable. If you find it to be that bad why are you going to a bar to play pool? There must be a pool hall around that has better tables or find a bar with a Diamond.

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Well come on out to the wilds of the middle of Montana and show me where these pool halls are that aren't 100 + miles away in just one direction ha ha when George Frank had the Corner Pocket Billards going strong many years ago yes pool halls were a bit more common until a host of things happened and they all faded into the sunset .

easy-e on the stream now. I missed the first few games.

Over the years I have been in some of the worst places you can imagine. It is possible for valleys to play well if not great. However it’s rarely the table alone thats the problem. Last week I played in one of the worst rooms I have ever been in. Valley table with dead spots on rails. Worm slow cloth, mud cue ball, old dirty balls that didn’t even match, dim light, super flimsy plastic rack. All of this compounded by a thick cloud of smoke. I told my team captain never again will I play there.

jay helfert said:

If my tip was too hard I would "tenderize" it using a four way file. Still a great tool to have. I would lightly pound the tip too soften it. It worked. Then use a tip tool (Butera's, then changed to the round disc later) to abrase the tip. And cleaned up the mushroomed tip edges with extra fine sand paper. Prefered Champions but used Kamui later.

I guess I'm as old school as it gets.

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Then to finish up that thought Jay it was Frank McGowan who suggested to me to get a 4 way wood rasp to use as a tip tool so I can blame him for that .

also cheapcues.com in portland or. is very cheap and reputable. and does what they say.

they have a brick and mortar store as well and that is one of my prerequisites for buying most times over the net.
and have pool people that work there.

both are good. i would order from either for things i would want to be sure of.
dont know if the other has a store as on their site they dont give any address but they are certainly legit.

dont confuse a drinking bar with a table. and a bar with more tables that has leagues.

generally bad equipment will benefit the better players as they can adjust for it and use it to their advantage.

if you just blindly play and don't think then you are the one at risk.

a cue ball that rolls off hurts the bar players as they hit all shots too softly. so your firm hits will be better.

Ugly comes to mind.

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