DrCue'sProtege said:

Most GCIVs do.

But as well know - every single table can play different.

Nick Varner's GCV just seems to play so much better than my GCIV.

I just don't understand it.

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as humid as you say your room was, you really needed 760. It makes a world of difference in humid basements.

My main poolroom was next to a creek and about 75% underground. Was humid as hell. It had brand new GC4’s in about 2000 (and GC1’s before). The owner would change the cloth every 6 months. Always 760. When the owner tried 860 one year, everyone hated it. Was slow as a valley bar table from 1990 with beer stains. He went back to 760 6 months later and all was well in the world.

Other rooms 10 min away, but not underground, and not near a creek, all had GC4’s with 860 and played fine. Only the humid room needed 760.

jbart65 said:

Bergman should have beaten Yapp 5-0. Came up inexplicably short on position for the 7 and failed to run out as he should have.

Still won 5-2 and was very impressive.

Bergman is up to 7th place and is even in racks won and lost. He should have beaten Melling and Souto too.

Had Bergman been up to speed on 9 ball, he probably would have been near the very top. Very impressive.

I think his safety play is as good, if not better, than any other top American player. Seems at least as good as SVB or Gorst.

I do wonder how his stamina will hold up as the event moves on.

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Bergman was, by a mile, America’s best defensive player at 9ball when he competed regularly. Skyler was probably second best back then at defense. If Justin is still showing those refined skills, that is great to hear. He was also a rock solid kicker back in the day.

I have often noted what a shame it was that Justin sat out the first four years of the WNT, which has a) made defensive play and kicking more important than they ever have been, and b) made the break so difficult that the advantage enjoyed by the best breakers is less than in the past.

Kris_b1104 said:

Bergman is singlehandedly revitalizing my hope for Team USA.

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and making this usually boring event interesting

Take a breath

jbart65 said:

Bergman should have beaten Yapp 5-0. Came up inexplicably short on position for the 7 and failed to run out as he should have.

Still won 5-2 and was very impressive.

Bergman is up to 7th place and is even in racks won and lost. He should have beaten Melling and Souto too.

Had Bergman been up to speed on 9 ball, he probably would have been near the very top. Very impressive.

I think his safety play is as good, if not better, than any other top American player. Seems at least as good as SVB or Gorst.

I do wonder how his stamina will hold up as the event moves on.

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don't think stamina is an issue. the break was always the issue. but the new break rules seem to be a hand in glove fit. i guess we'll see but i would be surprised if he didn't go to stage 2

Black-Balled said:

Correct again.
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You forgot, 'Timing, Tempo & Rhythm'!

I'll add this for 'You' in my answer!

The start of the proper stroke​

The proper stroke starts in the pre-setup routine. After analyzing the position that waits for you, determine what kind of stroke is needed to achieve a point. Before the player addresses the cue ball, he needs to decide on the rhythm and tempo for that particular shot. Use a couple of warm up strokes to get the feeling.

When addressing the cue ball, the cue tip should be fairly close to the cue ball before you start your backswing. The player should learn to develop the same number of warm-up strokes on every shot. This provides the rhythm component of the stroke.

I personally believe in the continuous straight, horizontal and vertical stroke method, and not pausing. If the player interrupts the rhythm, he may lose the timing and tempo he was trying to achieve. Another very important part of the stroke is crescendo, (increasing speed), never decelerating. Just remember, whatever number of warm-up strokes you choose to take, embed that into your game

Patrick Johnson said:

There once was a product like that - a longish triangular mirror that sat under the rail. Only for practice, of course...

pj
chgo

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It was mostly at the wrong angle and was in the wrong place to see the bank line, and if you shot hard, the ball would hit the mirror on some tables, but other than that...

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middleofnowhere said:

I live in South Florida most of the houses built in the 60s 70s 80s in developments the biggest room in the house might be 12 x 15 and that's probably going to be their living room. They don't even have room for a bar table. They don't have basements down here.

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I was lucky enough to find a house with a family room that was 22x25 with no post. Pretty remarkable since it was the bottom floor. I used my table for a couple of years, and then it was idle since the pool hall was 10 minutes away with tournaments and players. I could have had a 6x12 snooker table in there as well.