jtompilot said:

What I don't understand is how it's possible for Mike Dechaine to be an 801. Has Mike even played 150 games the last two years to even stay on the FR list? He hasn't played well from what I've seen and considering Rating Inflation he should be more like 770.

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He has about 1,000 games in the last two years

are you kidding. all the league players that play well play for cash at some level. does any one really think that after you get good you just hit them around all day for fun. and do you think you can get good playing for fun. few do.
if you want to play with someone that can play, you usually have to bet something. nowadays its mostly in one pocket.

mikeyd88 said:

Looks like a good quality cue.

K 1-12 hope this helps

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Hi, that is so interesting. So you have any more of those papers about the Adam company, after the year 2000? I have seen some of those AJC 2000 cues, over the years, and the ACCS shafts. Thanks for the pics of the Karella cues too. Very cool.

I really want a Musashi someday.

older pro and very good players didn't agonize over their cue. if it hit well they kept it forever and didn't care what it looked like.

many got their cues for free from the handful of cue makers who wanted their cues to be seen.

most all were fairly plain. except ernie, made some very ornate ones for a select few.

if they ordered a cue they called up and said the weight, mm tip size and the wrap and maybe the taper and said make me a cue.

it wasnt until later on that some players started having all sorts of inlays and fluff. few of those were top players but collectors and those wanting show.

Bob Jewett said:

Vafaei was 1-3 behind Trump but they ended at 4-4 for the session. He seems to be unawed by the #1.

WST.tv now has the matches up for watching quickly after the stream. I think they have improved quite a bit since they left DAZN.

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The quality of the broadcast is A-1. The whole crew does a great job . The comments of World Champions is entertaining and educational. The camera crew provides high definition looks at all aspects of the action on the table.
Ronnie O'Sullivan and John Higgins just getting into stride and 3-1 Ronnie at first break.

mikemosconi said:

I had an eBay era DP that played great and was well constructed - many others also say the same about eBay era DP cues - and some, like you, did not like the cues.
Obviously the positives far outweigh the negatives on Dale’s eBay cues as they have gone from $99 original eBay selling point to now 3 to 6 times that number as selling mostly in 350 to 550+ range.
Dale’s pre 2008 cues even more highly undervalued as they suffered from the lower price points on his ebay cues.
I wish that I never sold my DP ebay era cue OR my DP pre ebay era cue- they were both fine looking and playing cues.

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It around 2005, or maybe 2006, I purchased a Dale Perry cue from one of his ebay auctions. It had a Silver Radial joint pin. This was during a time when he was not listing a ton of them every week. This was probably early in his ebay selling days. Anyways, it auctioned off for around $350, iirc, and it was a super nice looking cue. I could not tell from the pics, but when I got it, it felt like the biggest POS that I ever tried to play with, lol. The shaft quality was pure garbage. It had the worst feeling taper that I ever felt on a cue in my life. It was really bad. Sent the cue back to him, and he gave me such a hard time about the refund. He did not seem like a very nice person. I remember him laughing at me on the phone. He seemed like a total narsisist to me. Another time, I purchased a sneaky cue from him, and wow, that cue was such a POS too. Hit like total garbage. This was before he came out with his Stage 4 shafts, which actually hit pretty nice, I though. Anyways, for some strange reason, that Sneaky cracked on me, and I know for a fact that I did not bump it up against anything. I have always been very good at taking good care of cues, and treat them like a baby. Anyways, it was such a POS. I returned it, and he only gave me a partial refund, and blamed me for the damage. Thinking about Dale Perry, I really do not like that guy. His older cues sure do hit super nice though, and are very high quality, in my opinion. I just really do not like the guy who made them. Those earlier ebay cues were garbage though, in my experience. The Stage 4 cues he made played decent though, I think. Just not nearly as nice as his older 90's era cues. Just my opinion.

tim913 said:

I’ve been in many places that had signs saying “No Gambling” and everyone was gambling . If the leagues had those rules it might change how discreet players were about it but that’s all

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Playing pool for stakes isn't gambling it's a contest of skill. Well a contest of skill with aspects of luck. The Washington judge decided the skill was deciding factor.
I had a youngster try to tell me that it was gambling to play for 5 a game. That was what we were playing when he put up a quarter and wanted to play for fun. His position was we could get the house in trouble for gambling. So I replied, "This is a tournament, single game, single elimination. The entry is $5. When this tournament is done we will play another. Do you want in our tournament?" He finally withdrew his quarter.

sjm said:

I've seen the 1960s version only and I absolutely loved it. The message that being the best at anything means having to keep proving it is an enduring one, and the psychological relief that comes when one falls off the top rung of the ladder and need no longer carry that burden is real. On reflection, Fat Brown was as much a winner in defeat as he'd have been in victory. The episode's final line, "Fats Brown, having relinquished the champion's mantle, has gone fishing" surely made you think of SVB, didn't it?

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I always thought UJ Puckett had it right. Fish every morning, play pool in the evenings, a little ballroom dancing he was fond of. Much like Old Blue Eyes, he did it his way!

I just watched this again mostly for the Twilight Zone music and introduction but this wasn't the one I liked or maybe I confused it with Night Gallery. Watching this time I noticed something I have never seen done. On the racks during a run they left the money ball position open rather than the front ball. Never saw that in real play.

Tennesseejoe said:

In one of the versions Fats missed a shot on purpose and it wet in the wrong hole. Maybe a 3 rail bank. Do you remember the shot? When I saw it 50 or 60 years ago I thought it was great. Then later on I saw it again and thought it was easy.

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I don't remember that offhand. Funny how different things look when you play pool. You see all of the set shots and things seem much less impressive!

Hu

skogstokig said:

or manila.

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God no. Wouldn't watch a minute of it.

Patrick Johnson said:

I think even the major fractions (except half ball) need some “feel”, and dividing the major fractions into smaller ones adds another layer of estimation, kinda like compounding interest.

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bbb said:

Not In my experience

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With aiming, I think "in my experience" means "it seems so to me". Not that it's necessarily inaccurate, just that it's not objective.

pj
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spartan said:

So Rating Increase =rating inflation +skills performance improvement
How much is rating inflation? I am guessing ballpark around 20 points give or take a few points. So an 800 player a decade ago with no improvement in skills performance would be about 820 now give or take a few points. Top guys like Yapp, Filler with 50+ increase over last decade are really much better players now even after deducting rating inflation
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What I don't understand is how it's possible for Mike Dechaine to be an 801. Has Mike even played 150 games the last two years to even stay on the FR list? He hasn't played well from what I've seen and considering Rating Inflation he should be more like 770.

a bump! Still available.

smoochie said:

Even side pockets has nails, they are not out, but I reckon if ball strike hard it can push inside the rubber of the pocket and hit the nail.

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just to share my recent experience. I have a new set of Aramith Premiums that I played on a different table and sadly my 4 ball got that same scratch mark which is just a bit deep that you could feel it or get your fingernails sink on it. I believe it was the corner where I powered a shot. annoyingly enough, that corner had a really exposed nail. so unlucky since it was the only corner where I did that kind of shot when I was using it. to my annoyance, I decided to unscrew the damn thing and threw the screw away.

anyway, just decided to leave the scratch as is since I don't think it would have a huge problem moving forward. I think it would make more harm if I decide to sand it. I'll just buff and spray it for maintenance.

Bob Jewett said:

I hope the WPC moves back to Cardiff. I could go for that again.

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or manila.

@jimstone how are you doing?

I had a student once who said she knew about ghost ball aiming. So I setup a shot and put a ghost ball in place and said "now aim at the center of the ghost ball." And of course she said "oh, you aim at the center of the ghost ball?"

ShootingArts said:

There were at least three different versions with different actors. Winters/Klugman was the best by far in my opinion. I chased down three versions and had them on an old computer. A sudden crash and my usual sloppy back-ups. There were at least four different versions of the movie "Stagecoach" too that made John Wayne a real star. I used to watch multiple versions of movies just to compare. Reminds me, I wonder how many times they remade some of the old science fiction movies? I would have thought they wore out the costume for the creature from the black lagoon.

Winters and Klugman were solid pool players, some of the later actors seemed to be purely acting. The same way I rated players moving around a table I rated these later guys. Some seemed to be just making a video. Winters and Klugman seemed to be doing it for fun, not that they turned down the dollars!

Hu

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In one of the versions Fats missed a shot on purpose and it wet in the wrong hole. Maybe a 3 rail bank. Do you remember the shot? When I saw it 50 or 60 years ago I thought it was great. Then later on I saw it again and thought it was easy.

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The figure could be improved with some notes to get some of us up to speed quicker.

The Five ball's face is aligned with the cue ball. The Five ball's face shifts right, therefore, as cue ball shifts right with a thinner cut-shot angle . The left figure is a shot thinner than that in the right figure. The Five ball has more orange to the left than to the right of the '5' in the thinner cut.​

I like better an approach using CutShots training balls with their 100-some multi-colored spots. Take photos behind object and cue balls to see the change in visible distance between contact point and ball edge. The photos also show the distance from OB middle to contact point.

In left photo, the object ball sits on a black line pointing at a table pocket. Looking at the back of the object ball, the middle point --- the OB contact point --- is the red circle that sits above a black star. To the red-circle's right are a green star, black circle, red diamond, and barely visible, a black star at ball's edge.

The next photo is looking from behind cue ball at the object-ball middle. One can still see the red-circle contact point but it is now to the right of the ball. Next to it are still visible the green star, and a bit of the black circle, but not visible are the red diamond and black star.

Like with your figure, one can find the distance from OB center to contact point (blue diamond to blue circle to red circle) and distance of contact point to edge (green star and part of black circle). These estimates point to colored spots on the ball and not just eyeballing spots.


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The difference with your aiming balls and patrick’s double the distance is double the distance gives you a target to aim at
Your aiming balls you have to aim thru center cue ball and make 2 off center figures (the one on the object ball representing the contact point and corresponding figure on the cue ball) collide….you dont aim at the contact figure
Thats how i understand your aiming balls
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