Jerry R said:

You sre assuming it's everyone goal to make some sort of magical zero deflection shaft

Click to expand...

McDermott's goal is not to make a magical zero deflection shaft. It is concentrating more on hit and sound. They use marketing gurus who tell McDermott that hit and sound are very important even if the design increases deflection more than others. Their advertising may, however, be less than clear on this.
As far as the bounce test, take a look at the Jewett/drdave video. Search, too, here for dead blow hammer.
One thing McDermott does is experiment. They don't do the same thing as everyone else. They are not on a race for low deflection. They have concentrated instead on a hit, sound, feel.

Black-Balled said:

I think I read he was not in a proper position?

Nonetheless, I don't think one standing 1m+ away would have been able to discern that movement.

I still am of the opinion a shooter wouldn't have noticed it either.

Click to expand...

I'm inclined to agree with you here, but the question that arises is "where should the ref have been positioned in a situation like this one?"

sjm said:

If you don't like the thread, why post in it? The reason this thread is important is that discussion of what happened at the US Open 9ball on Sunday might point the way for the governing bodies of pool to revise rules, officiating procedures, and appeals processes to make the game better.

Click to expand...

No, the reason for the thread was to discredit Yapp, read the title.

VVP said:

Oh crap people still wasting time on this shit thread.

Click to expand...

If you don't like the thread, why post in it? The reason this thread is important is that discussion of what happened at the US Open 9ball on Sunday might point the way for the governing bodies of pool to revise rules, officiating procedures, and appeals processes to make the game better.

garczar said:

you might try jerry olivier, he's in texas. might call proficient also.

Click to expand...

Thank you. Is Proficient the one in Pennsylvania?

Oh crap people still wasting time on this shit thread.

Look at the 8 ball on time stamp 1:06:55 in the video below:

Login to view embedded media

Here's more from the same hack:

Login to view embedded media

Also I am curious about what you meant with the spread being 18 when you hit a high spin ball orthogonal into the long rail on short table shots. I play these often and would want to know more about this.

Click to expand...

If you really want to ruin your game, you could watch this "15 system" and make conclusions about the 18 off a ball.

This guy is one of these also-ran billiard players that never learned to play by feel:

Login to view embedded media

Yeah, I had a bad feeling about those Premiers from the day I got them. I thought I was just being paranoid. Glad to know I'm not paranoid .... just stupid!