Chili Palmer said:

The only time I look at the CB last is when jumping or tree topped, it helps with putting excess english on the CB.

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Funny that's how I started doing it. I had the hardest time drawing off cuts down the side rail from the end rail. Finally arrived at testing the stroke first, right next to the cue ball - like golfers do with puts. Since the idea was watching the the last three inches of the stick, the whole process paralleled right over to the shot itself. I started nailing those like they were two footers. It worked so well I tried it on everything that gave me trouble. It's more than a theory.

DeeDeeCues said:

Nah, the only nod to low deflection on my shafts is a shorter ferrule. I had a couple of LD maple shafts at different times, but didn't really see any difference, so I gave them away.

I really think it is more that I use so many different cues that I don't really have any adjustment time. For me different shafts are a lot like walking from pavement to concrete.

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Then that tells me you have way more experience moving between wood and CF than I have, and that's ok. It doesn't negate the fact that CF is inherently more consistent than wood. Prove me wrong?

jax_joe said:

How 'bout none of the dumb gimicky high run nonsense and just stage an actual world class straight pool event. No International this year so there is another hole there.

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are you sure the 14.1 won't be held?

The only time I look at the CB last is when jumping or tree topped, it helps with putting excess english on the CB.

Chili Palmer said:

Honest question, are your wood shafts low deflection? If not, then maybe our shooting styles are different because when I go from my old school high deflection shafts to a CF shaft I will occasionally miss balls I shouldn't miss and my leaves aren't as accurate. I also don't have a lot of time with CF shafts and I'm sure if I played with them more my play would even out, but again, I simply prefer old school wood shafts.

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Nah, the only nod to low deflection on my shafts is a shorter ferrule. I had a couple of LD maple shafts at different times, but didn't really see any difference, so I gave them away.

I really think it is more that I use so many different cues that I don't really have any adjustment time. For me different shafts are a lot like walking from pavement to concrete.

maha said:

its the best to compare thats why.

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Clearly it isn't. The targeting required of pool is way more sophisticated than gun shooting.

DeeDeeCues said:

Yeah, that is eight minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I switch all the time between wood and CF.

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Honest question, are your wood shafts low deflection? If not, then maybe our shooting styles are different because when I go from my old school high deflection shafts to a CF shaft I will occasionally miss balls I shouldn't miss and my leaves aren't as accurate. I also don't have a lot of time with CF shafts and I'm sure if I played with them more my play would even out, but again, I simply prefer old school wood shafts.

Lowell said:

Her game was clearly improving rapidly with the wood shaft, so I think it would be difficult to single out a carbon shaft helping her or not. I think that it really doesn't matter one way way or another, as proven by the world's best players using all types of shafts.

The best women's player under 25 is Seo Seoa, and she uses a wood shaft.

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I'm a numbers/science guy and believe 100% that CF is more consistent then wood, it has to be, if made properly. Wood has grains, grains go different directions, grains have different thicknesses, grain has different density, you rotate it one way it will do X, you rotate it another way, it will do Y, hit it at one speed in a specific rotation it will do X, hit it at another speed in a different rotation it will do Y. Muecci's original red dot shaft focused on that. Do I think at a certain level of play it will make someone miss, no, but it may result in the CB ending up 1/8" from where they wanted it, and that can make a difference. As mentioned, I play exclusively with OLD wood shafts, I can't stand the feel of a newer wood shaft, I'm no world beater but I'm no slouch either, and wood is where it's at for me. But, in the end, scientifically speaking, CF (if made properly) is more consistent then wood. Prove me wrong?

DeeDeeCues said:

Yeah, that is eight minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I switch all the time between wood and CF.

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Good on ya, mate

Obo

Chili Palmer said:

My personal opinion, and this is coming from someone who only plays with old school Huebler's and wood shafts, is that CF is simply more consistent. Whether it's low deflection or not is irrelevant, it's more consistent and that's where the money is. As mentioned, I have mainly played with Huebler's since the late 80's and I have tried a ton of CF shafts, they're just not for me. But at my age (apparently I'm elderly) I'm not interested in the work I would need to put in to convert to a CF shaft, I'm also not a fan of the black shafts, but that's a personal opinion. However, I do think it would be beneficial for younger players to use CF and I think Savannah switching to CF will only benefit her.

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Her game was clearly improving rapidly with the wood shaft, so I think it would be difficult to single out a carbon shaft helping her or not. I think that it really doesn't matter one way way or another, as proven by the world's best players using all types of shafts.

The best women's player under 25 is Seo Seoa, and she uses a wood shaft.

Chili Palmer said:

...I'm not interested in the work I would need to put in to convert to a CF shaft, ...

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Yeah, that is eight minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I switch all the time between wood and CF.

100 grand may seem like plenty to someone working in a lower bracket and doesnt have much in expenses. but it rarely will enable you to have a big nest egg when you retire without investing alot of it and or having something else going for you to make more.

almost 100 percent of all pool players present or past will retire near the poverty level at least in the u.s. or be mostly broke throughout their career.
the only ones that survived where smart ones that made money in business.