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GideonF said:

Old snooker pro Nigel Bond has a pretty pronounced chicken wing.

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Here is the video this is from. He has some other videos on YouTube.

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Thank you, that's exactly what I'm looking for.

Lowell said:

My chicken wing was the result of what felt like "naturally" having my cue aligned with my chin/vision center was like.

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Me too, that's how my body naturally sets up. Would have saved me a lot of trouble if someone told me about pulling your shoulder back when I learned to shoot. Any tips on keeping a straight shooting motion with a chicken wing? Specifically on softer/ touch shots?

Bob Jewett said:

I'm curious -- how well do you play currently? In an evening of nine ball, how many break and runs do you have?

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I don't play much 9 ball. Play mostly banks and 8 ball and slowly picking up one pocket. I'm not a great player by any means, just love the game and always trying to improve. But my elbow position has always tripped me up. Tried fixing it to straight for a long time but my body thinks straight is crooked and won't stroke in a straight line. Chicken wing and a stroke slip takes care of all my problems on med- hard shots, but slower, touch shots bring my problems back up.

Bob Jewett said:

I think that Lee Vann would be a very difficult player to model your stroke after. Some examples here:
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It's not so much modeling I'm going for. We already have a similar form (flat shoulders, chicken wing etc) I'm just checking to see how similar shooting players keep a straight stroke throughout the entire shooting motion.

sjm said:

Wow, I've never seen that in 9ball, only 10ball. On second thought, they used to spot the nine if it went in on the break at the challenge of champions, possibly in the women's event only.

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Nine spotting on the break is very common in my area. With rack your own, allowing 9b on the breaks can lead to big problems with rack mechanics wiring the 9 (or even innocent bad rackers wiring the 9). At minimum it’s usually 9b doesn’t count in the two corners on the break.

I don’t know if you were around at the Derby (rack your own no template years) when Mika and Frost almost got into it because the 9 was heading straight to the corner on multiple Frost breaks.

iusedtoberich said:

Wait a minute, isn't that head ball force through actually used MORE times than not, by the top pros? (depending on the score and other ball positions of course)

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definitely not more than safe. but whether the number is lower than two decades ago, i'm not sure. efren may distort the numbers lol

skogstokig said:

yea i think shane along with filler and FSR was automatic from ranking points.. icbw.

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Pretty sure it’s just top American (Shane) and top European (FSR) that got guaranteed spots. The other three were Matchroom / Captain’s picks.

arps said:

That would be a long debate. But I agree that either of the Ko brothers should have been included in the team.

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The Ko brothers weren’t eligible - didn’t play the required number of WNT majors (they are mainly playing Chinese pool these days).

FeltyFran said:

Uhh,, gotta believe fluffing the Mosconi is a big reason they were even selected, with all due respect they're both amazing.

nevermind...if Josh and fedor are sitting there to be picked I'm going with them twice on Sunday lol and Shane's a forced pick.

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yea i think shane along with filler and FSR was automatic from ranking points.. icbw.

cuetechasaurus said:

It’s possible I’ve simply missed the matches where they do play the shot. Feels like I haven’t seen it attempted by the top players in a long time.

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That one's touchy unless you got comfortable air and a familiar brand of playing surface. The layout might merit that choice though. The double bank and the double kiss are usually what you see.

SSP said:

You: it's a different pocket shape
Me: they don't use YOUR pocket shape on pool tables
If you want to play disc carom go ahead, I would prefer to play pool, let me know when YOU beat a player like SVB, Corey Duel, or even Earl Strikland this year, my guess it ain't going to happen, I'm sure anyone of them would be happy to gamble with you

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Typical jock flailing? You a cop? They need the legislature to sort disagreements out.

Try answering the questions I did ask. And the shape - it's all aperture and no jaws. Goes at all angles. Best practice tool in the world. If they did have options like that, Murkhans would be in control of MC.

HawaiianEye said:

It wasn't a dig against anyone.

I think the top Chinese and Taiwanese players outplay the Filipinos.

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That would be a long debate. But I agree that either of the Ko brothers should have been included in the team.

iusedtoberich said:

Wait a minute, isn't that head ball force through actually used MORE times than not, by the top pros? (depending on the score and other ball positions of course) haven’t seen the shot in a long time when I watch more recent (the last several years) pro one pocket matches on the web. It’s possible I missed the ones where they do attempt it.

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It’s possible I’ve simply missed the matches where they do play the shot. Feels like I haven’t seen it attempted by the top players in a long time.

In 2022, Earl Strickland was using a Mike Gulyassy 58" cue with a 14mm shaft, a black phenolic ferrule, and an Elkmaster tip.

Mike made Earl and I identical shafts at the same time.

If you can play, you can play with anything.

I've seen a handful of them around. I'd like to find one really straight and the metal collars and pin in good shape if possible. If I can find I'll get a new shaft with a refinish and update the buttcap and bumper.

Day 2 lineup.