Thank you everyone for the replies. I have a follow up question as well. Im still on the fence between the "regular" cut Penguin rails vs the pro cut. (Main reason for this is having my friends and family over and I know they would get discouraged really quickly with the pro cut rails)

But my question is, will the cushions play the same from the regular and pro? I couldn't find if the pro cut used a different/better type of rubber. My main concern is speed and action off the rails.

Thanks again

check this out

you can see it in the group picture of the "new design" group, it's the second from the right but when you open the link you get different cues.
Maybe you can talk to the owner of the site

I like all the lies already mentioned, but one of my favorite bathroom conversations, when running into a buddy goes something like this:

(As you're washing your hands)
You: Are you still in the tourney?
Him: Man, you're not going to believe what just happened to me.
You: (Preparing yourself) Oh no. What happened.
Him: I break and run out. Then he breaks and runs out. We keep going back and forth like this all the way to hill-hill.
You: Wow. That's crazy.
Him: Then I break dry, and he slops in the 9 to win.
You: That sucks.
Him: Can you believe it? I played perfect and lost.
You: That's unreal.

skor said:

There are a few but they are 5 points and 6 points

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This was a 4 point. I swear it.

Chopdoc said:

I thought the same. I dont like the big gap. Then I saw one recently without the big gap.

I'll see if I can find it again. I don't know if it's a specific model, or custom, but I saw it.

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There are a few but they are 5 points and 6 points

skor said:

With a big ugly gap between them.
I couldn’t find a single cue on Joss website that I would want to have, of course it’s just my taste and doesn’t reflect anything about Joss cues and design.
I like the CoM cue, it a classic design and more of a memorabilia paying homage to the movie, and still, those gaps…
They have some five points cues with smaller gaps but 5 points are thin points and they are too similar to my Jacoby

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I thought the same. I dont like the big gap. Then I saw one recently without the big gap.

I'll see if I can find it again. I don't know if it's a specific model, or custom, but I saw it.

Chopdoc said:

The infrastructure is breaking down.

It's not about corporate leadership or government. It's cultural. It's about individual people doing their job.

I'm getting a short fuse on this I guess.

I reflect on our sport getting into legit space. Pros making what they should. Tournaments being what they should. The sport needs to mature financially. We sit here collecting technical data for decades. It's a failure to launch scenario.

For God sake break dancing made it into the Olympics but not cue sports?

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I’ve interviewed the German head coaches about this. The explanation boggles the mind.

Chopdoc said:

Gambling on games and cues? Still? Really? Business is gambling, truly. But transcending from smokey pool rooms to board rooms isn't happening yet.

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Pool becoming a legit sport and not out hustler stigma, is the key.

Chopdoc said:

Sure, occasionally...

This is bigger than shipping delays.

I haven't checked golf or tennis forums, but I doubt they have the same problems.

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Pool was in schools in California, and Bart Mahoney was the driving force- he created a plan that only needed 30K to enact in multiple districts but got shut down. It’s still on the BEF website if you want a gander.