Update on butt. It's a good player to enjoy. Shaft is worth the price of admission. OBO

Would someone mind explaining EXACTLY what happened with all of this???

Jerry R said:

Pool is not poor because people won't pay to watch it. Pool is poor because it's only interesting to people who play the game. (Actually, that's not even true. It's really only interesting to a small percentage of people who play the game. Most players don't watch it either.)

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You might be right, but more people used to watch pool in the US and viewership in some places overseas seems to be pretty good. In any case, I am happy to subscribe to WNT TV and Billiards Digest. Doesn't cost me much to support the game.

jbart65 said:

This is, of course, part of the reason pool is so poor. If dedicated fans won't pay for anything, who will? I am happy to pay a annual WNT TV subscription so long as it works. I'd be happy to pay a Predator one, too.

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Pool is not poor because people won't pay to watch it. Pool is poor because it's only interesting to people who play the game. (Actually, that's not even true. It's really only interesting to a small percentage of people who play the game. Most players don't watch it either.)

Jerry R said:

Nah, they'll just say "you owe Oscar interest" now instead.

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Inflation is a real thing, and it has been bad. Should add interest to the Debt, lol. I forget the term they used in Rounders. Keep the Juice running?

I would be curious to know how sjm rates Filler's performance in the UK Open final. Might be the best I've ever seen from him in a big WNT or Predator event in the final stages of a tourney. His two matches on the final day were dominating.

I thought it was a great event.

Jerry R said:

I'll be the first to admit I do not know a ton about the details of how the fees are split, but I see more than a few YouTube channels that have a "Membership" only videos along with their free content. Seems like a good way for MR to utilize the outstanding interface and still have a "subscription" if they feel they need that.

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I don't know the details either, but I work under the assumption that if something was easy, it would have been done by now. Not true in government and not always true in the private sector, but for-profit companies tend to find a way.

Seems to me MR concluded this wasn't a viable option.

Jerry R said:

I've never bothered with the WNT.tv deal. Partly because of the reviews I've read on the hassle to stream on TV, and partly because I feel like they got a bit greedy and power drunk when they thought they had the pool world by the balls.

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Lack of a dedicated app is a problem.

Drunk on power? What power! Nobody in pool really has power in the true sense of the word.

Jerry R said:

I remember once when Emily was complaining about pirated streams, she said they can't get any sponsors if they can't show they have subscribers. That didn't really make sense to me. I would think if you went to Mercedes or Rolex and said we have 3 million YT views you'd get a lot further than saying we have 50,000 subscribers.

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Whatever page views Predator and MR generate on Youtube, it does not seem to have translated into advertisers or ad money.

Jerry R said:

At this point with all of the Heyball, Ultimate Pool, Predator and WPBA events that are free, the thought of paying to watch Filler run another paint-by-numbers 9b rack is pretty out of the question.

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This is, of course, part of the reason pool is so poor. If dedicated fans won't pay for anything, who will? I am happy to pay a annual WNT TV subscription so long as it works. I'd be happy to pay a Predator one, too.

Rubik's Cube said:

Palko is a new name to me, Mr M.

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I just could not resist such a lovely colourful box

vintagecollectibles831 said:

Yeah, maybe because they will not know that the debt was paid off. Hopefully this will be news on other Social Media platforms too, so that everyone will know.

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Nah, they'll just say "you owe Oscar interest" now instead.

Jerry R said:

Don't worry, every time Johnny is on a stream somewhere, someone in the comment section will still bring it up.

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Yeah, maybe because they will not know that the debt was paid off. Hopefully this will be news on other Social Media platforms too, so that everyone will know.

I thought to ask Google AI about some type of product that might help with screwing the joint pin into the super tight threads, and they recommended Beeswax, so I had this Longoni Special Way laying around, and put some of that stuff all over the joint pin, after cleaning it the best that I could. Then, I slowly tried to screw in the joint to the Mezz shaft, and at the point that I thought was stuck before, I was able to keep turning it, even though it did get super tight, and much harder to turn (as it would normally be, though tighter it felt), but I was able to screw it in all the way. I then did that about 3 times over, going back and forth, and I feel that it should be good now (hopefully). So, maybe the pin was just dirty, or the insert a little bit rusty, but not sure. I do wonder if there is a cleaner for cleaning the threads in the shaft. Thanks for your replies.

Scrunge19 said:

The internet can finally rest now that someone they don’t know got paid for something that happened like 10 years ago… phew, what a relief

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Don't worry, every time Johnny is on a stream somewhere, someone in the comment section will still bring it up.

I'll be the first to admit I do not know a ton about the details of how the fees are split, but I see more than a few YouTube channels that have a "Membership" only videos along with their free content. Seems like a good way for MR to utilize the outstanding interface and still have a "subscription" if they feel they need that.

I used to have a DAZN subscription, mostly because along with the MR events they have other content I watched, but I've never bothered with the WNT.tv deal. Partly because of the reviews I've read on the hassle to stream on TV, and partly because I feel like they got a bit greedy and power drunk when they thought they had the pool world by the balls. When I heard they decided it was okay to do a PPV behind a paywall service I thought they'd lost their minds.

I remember once when Emily was complaining about pirated streams, she said they can't get any sponsors if they can't show they have subscribers. That didn't really make sense to me. I would think if you went to Mercedes or Rolex and said we have 3 million YT views you'd get a lot further than saying we have 50,000 subscribers.

At least with DAZN there was a chance someone watching Boxing, Soccer, NFL, Darts etc. could stumble onto a pool match and maybe become a fan. That'll never happen with WNT.tv

At this point with all of the Heyball, Ultimate Pool, Predator and WPBA events that are free, the thought of paying to watch Filler run another paint-by-numbers 9b rack is pretty out of the question.