Wayben said:

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My last hunting dog a English pointer black lab cross was a full on stealth mode dog when he wanted to be !
He once snagged a 1 lb block of butter off of the counter top and ate the whole thing and didn't tear the waxed paper wrapped around the butter !

Another time he ate 4 fresh out of the oven chocolate chip cookies by stretching out just enough to lean over and grab a cookie off of the cooling rack !
He also could clear a 4' chain link fence without touching the top wires ! And I watched him climb a 6' kennel fence corner and escape in less than 30 seconds after you were in the house , because he would watch and listen for the back door !

it is if he denies doing them. or hides the fact that he did.

unless beforehand it was stated that cue ball fouls only counted. then his run is accepted only by that so called authority.

that is why a written detailed standard has to be accepted and followed by all, or it destroys the whole reason for being a world record.

wrldpro said:

100% legit tables are used and insoected by many world champions that have come to my poolrooms. It’s a serious issue that Schmidt had to take shortcuts and have about 12 fouls on a single attempt and call his play a 820. It’s a disgrace to the game and sport but it’s not the 1st time he’s cheated and it’s actually on video so people can see it for themselves what occurred. He certainly has exposed his desperation to be relevant and so many top players and world champions have reached out to me and laugh in discust over the many, many years he has been caught cheating. Anyways we have moved past his BS because he is not relevant because he has no honesty.

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If the BCA allows theses fouls, can it still be called cheating?

not in gambling, or politics, or military, or teachers in school, or your parents telling you there is a santa claus or easter bunny. and you look handsome,
and what your priest about things up in the sky. and almost every single advertisement you see on tv.
or the policeman that stops you and is allowed to lie to you and does, to get information that may implicate you in a crime.

in gambling it is customary to try to influence your adversary by deceiving him about your skill.
taking balls from his side is stealing.

cant argue that svb and filler are not the best or close to the best pool players that ever lived. more time will tell. but in any case they both are right up there.

but the list is long and most are very close. and it has to consider proficiency in all games not just one or two.
in just 9 ball, certainly.

Jpac
FairL
Philly
bbb
GoldCrown

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David in F
Chop
WildWing
DeadMoney

they have the same info about each other if they chose to do the due diligence. if a player asks me to play for money i have no obligation to tell him i am better. or even if i am and ask for a spot. its gambling. you try to get the best of your opponent without cheating.

what is cheating is in each owns mind. especially from the ones that lose all the time.

if a chess master is in the park where they are gambling and asks someone to play and they say how good are you. he says not that good. whats wrong about that. they guy that asked didnt volunteer his rating.

if you are not a gambler dont gamble. and if you do expect to lose. and blame yourself for being stupid, if you gamble with a stranger you take your chances.

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Bob Jewett said:

So far as I know, the BCA has not recognized as a record any run that contained a foul.

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So far as you know? Weak sauce Bob.