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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

j2pac
vintagecollectibles831 said:
Hi, curious, what was the brand of CF shaft that felt dead to you? I hated the 1st few CF shafts I tried, that were from a few different custom cue makers, but when I tried the Whyte Carbon, I was floored (amazed) by the power, feel, and feedback that the shaft gave me.
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I tried a couple of Raven shafts. One wasn't bad, the other I didn't care for, and I had one custom made, and I didn't care for the blank. I hit with a Cynergy, which was ok, but in the end I kept coming back to the AVID.
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Pro Pocket Size TOO Small for 9 Ball

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skip100 said:
Meanwhile, on the pga tour today they set up a “par 4” that the final groups were hitting pin high with 3 woods that have a sweet spot the size of what used to be the entire clubface in the early Tiger era.

Golf has gone too far in one direction and pool has gone too far in the other. Golf has dumbed down the game for pros while creating no benefit for amateurs (average handicaps are stable over decades) while pool has made it more boring to watch at the pro level and harder to play at the amateur level. In the Diamond world amateurs are essentially forced to play on barboxes if they want to make any balls.

Runouts are fun. Watching pros duck shots because they are too hard is not fun.
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Do you think every at bat in baseball should result in a home run?
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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

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j2pac said:
No. The stiffness of the shaft seemed to produce a dead feeling. I felt like I had to stroke harder believe it or not. Went to the AVID shaft...problem solved. Could have been a combination of several factors.
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I'm sure my experience differs from others. I can only share my own views as it relates to CF.
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Hi, curious, what was the brand of CF shaft that felt dead to you? I hated the 1st few CF shafts I tried, that were from a few different custom cue makers, but when I tried the Whyte Carbon, I was floored (amazed) by the power, feel, and feedback that the shaft gave me.
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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

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Paul_#_ said:
This post is about hybrid shafts that have a CF top and a wood bottom. Little is known about these but players' seem to react to them in a similar fashion to that of shafts made of a combination of CF and wood.

The hybrid and the combination CF/wood shafts appear silly, wacky, and gimmicky. Still, players and companies like them. Companies like the shafts because the combination makes the shaft stronger, more consistent quality, and cheaper wood can be used. It appears most McDermott shafts are combination shafts (G-Core and I-series) or carbon fiber.

The weirdest combination shaft and that looks like an upside-down hybrid shaft is Cuelees EX Solid that has two types of wood near the tip with "internal reinforcement of . . . various wood species", and at the joint end a sandwich of carbon fiber rods sitting inside and outside the hollowed-out maple wood.View attachment 886968

The wood dowel inside the hollow wood is replaced with a carbon fiber rod a few inches from the cue tip and continues to joint end. Nearer the joint, the wood core is encased with another carbon fiber rod to make the wood and CF sandwich.

Some swear by it. For example, an AZer wrote about EX Solid:







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Wow, that is really far out, lol. I love all of this new tech so much. Back in the 90's, the coolest new tech to come out was the Predator 314 shaft.
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Do Aramith balls come in a sealed box?

Bavafongoul
Question……since the vast majority of us that have bought Aramith pool balls over the years that arrived in the manufacturer’s original carton that was not shrink wrapped, it seems curious, if not just suggestive, that the boxes
arriving shrink wrapped wasn’t performed by the manufacturer. There would be a much higher percentage of buyer
experience coinciding with this instead of the other way around where most buyers haven’t received shrink wrapped original manufacturer cartons. So I wonder whether the shrink wrapping is done by Amazon on returned purchases to distinguish them from new unopened sets of pool balls of the same brand. Just maybe shrink wrapped balls are the sets of pool balls purchased but was returned for one reason or another? That would really be ironic but probably unlikely, or so I’m supposing.
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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

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dendweller said:
I would tend to agree.
Having seen cracked and gouged cf shaft though, I don't quite know the durability is something I count on. If they do get a gouge or deep scratch, you're kind of out of luck. I've seen cracked ones and gouged ones, really was nothing you could do about it.
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Yeah, that is a huge Con with CF shafts. They do get dinged up, and damaged, for various reasons. I will just call it Abuse, so best to buy new, and take very good care of the shaft, and be very careful with it.
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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

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bbb said:
@skor
here is another perspective
yes carbon fiber has its pros you listed many of them
it also has its cons
primary or a common criticism
lack of feel
wood has its pros
primary or a common positive is feel
so a hybrid gives a nice blend of the durability and consistency (and power transfer)
of carbon from the most important front part of the shaft
and the feel from the wood in the back
also regarding do we need more power
my thoughts are
if you can swing softer which is usually more accurate to generate more distance or draw when needed compared to wood alone
isnt that better?
to me
my answer would be yes
jmho
icbw
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I think that is what Meucci attempted to accomplish, when creating their Carbon Pro shaft. A much more Wood like feel to the hit. I have yet to try one out, by the way. Their CF shaft is Cored with Maple, by the looks of it.
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Lowell said:
Among my league peers, I actually see more carbon shafts among guys aged 35 +. Probably because of more disposable income, though.
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I have to agree with him on what he said. All the young kids are using CF now, and from what I have seen, most of the older guys are still using their trusty maple shafts. I have an old friend from the 90's, that laughed about CF shafts for the longest time, saying that he would never own or even try one, but eventually he tried a Cuetec Cynergy, and he was floored by the performance and power of the shaft. Talking about how it has never been so easy to move around the cue ball, and do what he needed to do with the cue ball. He was sold on CF, with the Cynergy, the same way that I was sold with CF, the 1st time I tried out a Whyte Carbon shafts, for the same reasons that he loved his Cuetec Synergy.

So, I believe that if these older guys would just give a high quality, very popular CF shaft a chance, then they might (and probably would be) floored by the performance too.

I am still intrigued by these Hybrid Carbon shafts though, and think they look really cool.
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Lukas Verner wins WNT Ranking Event

skor
Kris_b1104 said:
Would you rather Tyler Styer get a wildcard slot over Lukas? Cause he's for sure not making the team on ranking points. Only asking because he's the most boring/non exciting player to watch. Lukas is the only American that has a WNT title under his belt this year.
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If Lukas gets in based on ranking then good for him, non of them are existing to watch.

Tyler Played really well at the UK open but nothing interesting since.
Maybe send his wife instead
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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

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RunEmOut08 said:
I spent an hour with Vince on the phone a couple weeks ago. What a nice and knowledgeable guy!!

He’s currently building me a shaft to test. I have been using the Becue engage 11.8 for the last couple of years and although I feel like that CF shaft has the best feel of the ones on the market, it does not feel like a wood shaft.

Really looking forward to trying out the hybrid shaft to see how it compares.
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I assume that you meant that it does not hit like a wooden shaft. The feel will be very different then wood, with any CF shaft, if you are talking about the way it feels when it glides through your bridge hand.
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Have you played with a hybrid shaft yet??

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skor said:
Define Hybrid...
Because if it's a shaft that is constructed from more than one material then they are more common than you might think.
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I think that he really should have added a pic, to show what these types of shafts look like. Here is an example though, but this example is made by a cue maker, in Japan. The Maple Base here was from a Mezz shaft.
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