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Comparison of linen wraps between brands

spktur
Chili Palmer said:
Being a fan of Cortland Irish Linen (my two players, Huebler's, have original Cortland wraps) I went down a rabbit hole a few years back. Although it's called "Irish" linen, it was actually made by the Cortland Line Company out of New York. It's made from the fibers of the Flax plant and spun in a 3x3 strand twist, current linen is spun in a 2x3 format, the 3x3, I'm assuming, is why it's called #9. The 3x3 makes a more round thread and creates a more rounded/smooth texture. I'm not sure why, but the original machinery to make the 3x3 was dismantled/destroyed - or otherwise - out of service. In the fishing world it is sometimes known as Cuttyhunk, you can occasionally find that for sale (example below) but I'm not sure what the difference is between the two. Link below is called "4 square", not sure what that means but it tells me it's not 3x3. Actually, since it's 54lb test I would guess it's spun 4x4 i.e. each strand is made up of 4 smaller strands, then 4 of those are spun to make the line.

Cuttyhunk:




More fun facts:

There are native flax plants in New Zealand that could/would be great for what we call Cortland Irish Linen. However, you need to learn how to spin it into thread, then you need the machine to twist it in a 3x3 format.

DuPont created synthetic line in 1938 which ultimately ended the flax linen reign.

The last time I saw an authentic roll of Cortland Irish Linen for a pool cue (and just enough for 1 cue) it was about $200, that was 6-8 years ago.

And on a side note: back in the late 80's my father gave me an Adam cue that had a two color wrap, bottom and top 2" (approximately) were white and the middle was black. I've often thought about finding old cues with torn up Cortland wrap and using the scraps to do the same thing. There's also no reason you couldn't find the same color to make a full wrap?

If you feel like making your own here are a couple of links on how to spin Flax.

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What you show is a spool of #24 54lb test rope twist style cuttyhunk instead of the braid type line that Cortland used. This is how it was braided Login to view embedded media also keep in mind all Cortland was not labeled Cortland as they would also due contract manufacturing under other brand names like most manufacturers. I bought a 300 yard spool of Abercrombie and Fitch a few years ago that was very obviously Cortland.
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Sold Vintage Adam Pool Cue - King James Rempe - The Prince JR-11

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Vintage Adam Pool Cue - King James Rempe - The Prince JR-11. I just bought this cue and its in very excellent condition, no marks or scratches in the finish. I bought it to play with and the shaft was a little thick so I had it professionally turned down to 12.5mm and pro taper, new ferrule and Kamikaze Medium Tip put on. Its in perfect condition now and a great vintage playing cue. Please ask any questions. Like new condition.

$425 Shipped.
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>>> FS: Meucci Originals 84-5 with 2 full shafts <<<

cueaddicts
Nice old Meucci 84-5 for sale, no trades. This cue has a few nicks here in the butt and there but is in nice original shape. Exposed linen wrap, not finished over. It has two original matched shafts. Both weigh 3.8 and still have full ferrules, 13 plus mm with new ultra skin layered tips. Butt weighs 15.55 with combined weight of 19.35oz. Butt rolls nice but both shafts have a a slight bobble, typical of what you see in almost all older Meuccis. Cue has nice eye appeal and best thing is absolutely no cracks in the rings.

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John Schmidt runs 820

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i complain about things that may need fixing. not about all sorts of people on this site like you do.

please put me on your block list. if you dont then you really want to follow me and have a problem.

and jason i find it hard to figure you out. you go from a great guy to a piece of shit and back and forth.

if anyone doesnt like or want to read what a poster here does, block him dont make personal attacks like a 9 year old kid might do.
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Dealing with cheats

ShootingArts
dquarasr said:
Ok, spill it (if you would like): how TF do you pocket 4 balls on a 7-ft bar box?!?

DM if you don’t want to share. 😁
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Two balls went directly into the foot pockets, two banked off of the side rails and went into the same pockets.

I put the cue ball one diamond out from the head rail and generally a little off center, the edge of the cue ball would be on or near the centerline of the table.

I used a ton of low and a little left regardless of where I put the cue ball. I hit the cue ball hard, maybe 3/4 to 7/8 of balls to the wall make customers and bar owners get whiny, although it was hit so far off center that it didn't make a ton of noise. This was with a cue off the wall, no break cues yet. I think I aimed a little off center on the one ball but I don't remember. Like many, I took a few decade break from pool.

I don't do any tournaments or gambling lately, especially not on a bar table. This was on the old Valley type tables, no idea if it would work on a Diamond.

This break worked in the seventies and eighties. It should work now with maybe some further adjustments needed but I don't know. I can tell you the first two balls went in very near simultaneously, the second two that banked did the same. Aside from making four balls it was a visually pleasing break.

Let me know if you get it working, the same for anybody else playing with it. I had a bar table before hurricane Ida and never even thought about trying to get this break working again.

Hu
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Willie Hoppe cue and “Expert Leather Cue Case”

Chopdoc
Biloxi Boy said:
I am always curious as to how certain items end up in the hands of certain sellers. Here, the seller is an eBay regular who is presently listing 54 other items for sale, none of which bear any relationship whatsoever to billiards. I am unable conjure any explanation beyond garden variety serendipity.
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Estate sales, storage locker auctions, garage sales...all kinds of things I imagine.

Occasionally I ask. Sometimes I track it down.

One cue I got recently came from a guy that died last April. He bought it in Chicago where he worked and got married back in the late 60's and early 70's. He retired to California. The cue was sold with other belongings after he died. Then it turned up on eBay, unidentified. I spoke to the widow.
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