if hit is important why buy something you havent hit. that seems logical as spock would say.

i am aware that the joss i am looking at is more than the Schmelkes ok. its never about price for me but hit quailty, if i could get my j&j from well 2000 id get that but well that was well about a 17 queue and not for breaking as well as playing, for what i am looking for is well great for overall before i have to well get back into things with out a decicated break, and well for a cue is a nice sneaky peak, since i like the style

maha said:

and then he says i used left hand english so the ball went to the right and kicked the other ball to the left.

now the the argument starts.

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And that's when I set it up again and tell them how it's impossible if the 8 moves.

and then he says i used left hand english so the ball went to the right and kicked the other ball to the left.

now the the argument starts.

GoldCrown said:

If you use your player for breaking.. the ferrule is going to crack eventually....maybe use a house cue to break.

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i do understand that part

maha said:

none of anything matters about a cue. if it hits the way you want buy it. and use it.

if you are collecting or want to impress those your playing with the looks or brand of your cue then thats a different story.

you may have some particular style you like then you can add that to the hit.

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i am not looking to collect, just the differences to hit is all before i decide to buy, since these are two i haven't used in 30 years of playing. its about knowing who has used them to know a bit of difference is all.

maha said:

it just seems not right to me to have a shot you cannot see if it a good hit or not and allow it to be shot. and then call a foul not because you saw it but because your interpretation of how the other balls reacted means it was a bad hit.

if going to try and do that then it is mandatory to explain and agree upon that way of deciding before the shot not after.

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Agreed, it should be discussed beforehand; however, I'm sure we can all agree that not everyone has the same knowledge and therefore - people shoot without discussing the shot first. In this situation, I wouldn't have said anything to the shooter because I would've thought it was simple - if the 8 moves it's a bad hit.

Here is a wrap less Ben Greene with a faux ivory handle, new never chalked. I can sell it without the shaft for $900.

none of anything matters about a cue. if it hits the way you want buy it. and use it.

if you are collecting or want to impress those your playing with the looks or brand of your cue then thats a different story.

you may have some particular style you like then you can add that to the hit.

Rats. Fooled again!1!!1!

wrthog78 said:

oh that is great to know, alot for what i need to know. ill have you know for me for a cue is break and play, since at this time i dont want a decated break que, im more a player just rather not have wrap. so the ones i am looking at are maple shaft.

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If you use your player for breaking.. the ferrule is going to crack eventually....maybe use a house cue to break.

Forgetabout the shot...nice looking GoldCrown

maha said:

it just seems not right to me to have a shot you cannot see if it a good hit or not and allow it to be shot. and then call a foul not because you saw it but because your interpretation of how the other balls reacted means it was a bad hit.

if going to try and do that then it is mandatory to explain and agree upon that way of deciding before the shot not after.

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If you're on good terms and probably also in a friendly situation, you can discuss the parameters involved and go from there.

it just seems not right to me to have a shot you cannot see if it a good hit or not and allow it to be shot. and then call a foul not because you saw it but because your interpretation of how the other balls reacted means it was a bad hit.

if going to try and do that then it is mandatory to explain and agree upon that way of deciding before the shot not after.

Mensabum said:

A guy came into the hall the other night so happy with his new predator jump/break cue. "Out of stock forever" he said. I wouldn't know.
Says he stole it for $1100!!
He thinks he can turn it for $1400!! Where does this come from??
I mean, c'mon.

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New math.

Mensabum said:

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The very things I've tried to avoid while playing. My ball selection over the years has developed a sort of double position requiring me to rarely make safeties. I don't like them and don't play many. et.

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safes and banks come up all the time in all games. and not being good at them hampers your chances of winning against a close competitor.

even in 9 ball a highly offense game if you dont have a shot that falls within the percentage needed to shoot it, you must play a safe.
if not, your are playing incorrect shots.