Action challenge on a 10-footer - anyone interested?

Vahmurka

Vahmurka

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Recently me and my pal were talking about Earl Strickland favoring 5x10 for the best pro players matches. And the idea came up, what if some respected and experienced promoter like TAR makes a challenge match on such a table? I suppose it could cause great interest, mostly because very few of us have seen just a plain game of pool on a 10-footer, let alone a game by real guns.
Rotation games like 9-ball nad 10-ball must be interesting to watch for sure, 8-ball also. And this gives us a unique opportunity to take a look at some real pool, i.e. 14.1, played like it used to be.
I believe the organising side could afford installing one table of that size and keeping it for further challenges. Add 4.25" pockets (or 4" if you like) to make it extremely tough.
Please let us see how that game was (and perhaps should be?) played! I think hardly any video of those old-timer legends playing on 5x10 is available, so such an opportunity must be really unique. Hoping the guys from The Action Report might feel interested.
 
DEFINITELY i've mentioned this before I think it'd be an amazing idea.

I've a had a real burning feeling for a good while now that 10-ball on a 10 foot Diamond would just about be absolutely PERFECT pool! Heck and 14.1 too!

I'd love to see Shane especially maybe play Archer, or Schmidt or Mika ten ball on a table like this just to see how it plays.

Heck it'd be be more of an exhibition, a unique, historic opportunity than anything - the bet doesn't have to be huge. And of course Diamond would have to agree to make a table - I don't think they make any ten footers as far as I know.

Would be great though to see a hint of what it would be like if those were standard conditions - I do firmly believe that that's what pro pool should be about. Why not try and raise the bar a bit?
 
worriedbeef said:
I've a had a real burning feeling for a good while now that 10-ball on a 10 foot Diamond would just about be absolutely PERFECT pool! Heck and 14.1 too!
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Does such a creature exist? The only 10' pool tables I've seen were Brunswicks, although I'm sure other companies must have made them in the past.

Aaron
 
Aaron_S said:
Does such a creature exist? The only 10' pool tables I've seen were Brunswicks, although I'm sure other companies must have made them in the past.

Aaron
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They do exist here and there in the states.

But I would be surprised if you couldn't fill out a custom order from Brunswick or a similar manufacturer for a 10 foot table. It's just extra materials not discontinued parts.

I would love to see a TAR 14.1 challenge on 10 foot table, it would harken back to the challenge matches of 60 years ago. Though I wouldn't want to see 4.25inch pockets, the distance itself would be enough to add an extra layer of difficulty.
 
I can see it now: RealKingCobra installs the world's first 10-foot Diamond with 1-piece slate! :thumbup:
 
I think it would be pretty cool. The big issue is the same one that comes into play on all of our matches. You have to find two players who want to put up serious money to play. Double tough to do when most guys do not have access to one to play on. Especially if a table was custom made for the match.

I think it would be cool to see Diamond make a 10 footer with 4 inch pockets just to hear all the curse words and phrases that get invented by the people who play on it. :D Even cooler would be the same table with only two corner pockets for one pocket. We can go waaaaaay back.
 
I could swear someone here on AZ and local in DFW got a quote on a Diamond in the last month....they mentioned it in the pool room....I think it was $7k for a Diamond Pro 10 footer....I could be wrong, but I swear he said 10 footer, and I remember him to be a good guy....wish I could remember his online name...

Is there that much difference between a 9 and a 10???? Just curious...and don't say a foot on each side :D
 
Yea, there is

Big Perm said:
I could swear someone here on AZ and local in DFW got a quote on a Diamond in the last month....they mentioned it in the pool room....I think it was $7k for a Diamond Pro 10 footer....I could be wrong, but I swear he said 10 footer, and I remember him to be a good guy....wish I could remember his online name...

Is there that much difference between a 9 and a 10???? Just curious...and don't say a foot on each side :D
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A pretty big difference between a 9 and 10 footer. Especially if you tighten the pockets up. Play for a long time on an 8 footer, and then go try out a 9 footer. You'll see the difference to some degree. But when you're talking about a 10 foot table, it makes more shots un-reachable, and you need a bridge more often. They used to have one in Indy, at Airport Billiards. I think it was a Brunswick. If I remember right, you could change the rails and convert it into a snooker table.

It would make for some good action.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Is that fo' tru?
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Greg Sullivan was talking about that very thing to me in Shooters last year. The two pocket table I mean. Not the ten footer but why the hell not go all the way ? LOL

He was telling me that he had seen a two pocket table somewhere. It would be interesting what some creative guys could come up with without all those pesky pockets in the way.
 
One pocket table...

JCIN said:
Greg Sullivan was talking about that very thing to me in Shooters last year. The two pocket table I mean. Not the ten footer but why the hell not go all the way ? LOL

He was telling me that he had seen a two pocket table somewhere. It would be interesting what some creative guys could come up with without all those pesky pockets in the way.
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They've got a "two pocket" table in Joplin, Missouri at J-Town Billiards. Very interesting little "trap" table. I've yet to fall for it yet, but I'd probably have to give 'er a whirl if anyone ever asked me while I was there. :thumbup:
 
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There used to be a two pocket table in Mobile, AL, as well. And, 10 foot tables are still around. I used to have one in a pool hall I ran in Phenix City, AL. All you have to do is use a conversion top rail on a snooker table. We had a Gandy, but the pockets weren't especially tight(Gandy, go figure, lol), but a couple of roadies fell in the trap. I have to say, though, that I didn't find it to be that much tougher than a 9ft, ball pocketing or position wise. Just have to use a bridge a little more. It mainly just took guys an hour or so to get in sync with it.
 
Cameron Smith said:
They do exist here and there in the states.

But I would be surprised if you couldn't fill out a custom order from Brunswick or a similar manufacturer for a 10 foot table. It's just extra materials not discontinued parts.

I would love to see a TAR 14.1 challenge on 10 foot table, it would harken back to the challenge matches of 60 years ago. Though I wouldn't want to see 4.25inch pockets, the distance itself would be enough to add an extra layer of difficulty.
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I can tell you from first hand experience that plain old 4 1/2" pockets are challenge enough. No need to make it any tougher...Tom
 
Big Perm said:
I could swear someone here on AZ and local in DFW got a quote on a Diamond in the last month....they mentioned it in the pool room....I think it was $7k for a Diamond Pro 10 footer....I could be wrong, but I swear he said 10 footer, and I remember him to be a good guy....wish I could remember his online name...

Is there that much difference between a 9 and a 10???? Just curious...and don't say a foot on each side :D
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Yes there's a big difference between the two. I don't know about 9 ball/10 ball but I've played staright pool on a 10 footer and it was tough. And the pockets were big but it was still tough. I would go so far as to say that it's easier to play on a 9 footer with 4 1/2" pockets than it is to play on a 10 footer with 5" pockets.
 
Big Perm said:
I could swear someone here on AZ and local in DFW got a quote on a Diamond in the last month....they mentioned it in the pool room....I think it was $7k for a Diamond Pro 10 footer....I could be wrong, but I swear he said 10 footer, and I remember him to be a good guy....wish I could remember his online name...

Is there that much difference between a 9 and a 10???? Just curious...and don't say a foot on each side :D
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From personal experience I can tell you that there is quite a bit of difference between the nine footer and the ten footer.

When I was in the San Francisco area in the sixties I hooked up with some guy playing nine ball on a nine footer. I had way the best of that game that I got to the point that I was giving him the seven out. After playing him for a couple of days and winning a fair amount he quit and wanted to take me to Cochrans in the City where they had a ten footer. I thought what difference could it be?
Well after a day of playing on that table and him working his way to playing even with me I realized I no longer had the best of it. Needless to say I pulled out.

I went back there a number of times to practice on that table to see if I could get the hang of it. I never did.

I agree that it would be very interesting to see a match up between a couple of todays top players.
 
I too have played on 10-footers in my teens. My Dad had an ice and coal business/route and brought ice to the fisehouse in 7 towns. Five of them had 10' foot tables. I played 14.1 on them with my Dad. When you played a safe to the fartest rail from a ball by the pack, you thought three times before trying to shoot it. 4 1/4" pockets? Even Shane wouldn't have to like that on a ten. Johnnyt
 
oh, glad to see some positive feedback here. Okay, leave the pockets as they are, 4 and a half. JCIN, what if the money staked by the players are slightly less than "serious"? I still believe that the ability to watch such matches itself is so great that there is no need to make it any hotter with hyped cash amounts.
First I thought about a table made from scratch (Diamond or whoever), but then, could it be easier to find and renovate some of older tables? I don't kow if they are rated as antique these days, if so a new one is definitely cheaper. But maybe otherwise.
I mean go for what allows to save on expense, but I hope the idea will not be forgotten. And sooner or later we will watch a great 10-foot challenge, on TAR pay-per-view wonderful stream :)
 
For once I gotta disagree with you Vahmurka :(

It will be just like watching the pros play regular pool, only with more misses and tougher position. I get more excited when they don't miss a ball for half an hour.

I wouldn't mind seeing and playing on one of these just for the novelty of it though.
 
10' table

played most of my pool on a 10 foot brunswick in 50`s willie gave several demo `s on our table ..if you ever saw willie play ....he only used the bottom 4 pockets.......he easily ran 100 and stopped ....
 
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