Ronnie Wiseman stiff's me for $3900

JoeyA said:
I had to provide this update: The guy who is under indictment for fraud is William Jefferson (Dollar Bill) and the FBI found $90,000.00 in his freezer from a fraudulent deal that went down between Dollar Bill and the FBI.

The whole story is on wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Jefferson

Now, he is ready for a run off race having received more votes than any of the other candidates running.

It's embarassing. :o :o :o :o

JoeyA
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Ninety thousand dollars in his freezer is nothing compared to the 700 billion stolen in plain sight last week. Where is the FBI now? Massive violation of their constitutional oaths for the benefit of foreigners using our tax money is treason. You will soon see thousands of lawsuits filed to end this absurd nonsense. The dollar is doomed and they put a 700 billion dollar bandaid on a decapitated body.

Even the government now admits food prices are up over 10 percent in the last year. That's how we pay for them printing fake money and giving it to their friends. Dollars will be falling on us like rain in the near future.

In 1919 Germany an ounce of silver was 12 of their whatcha callits, and in 1923 it went up to 500 BILLION. Get ready to go back to the future.

David Walker resigned over Congress' unwillingness to face the inevitability of the 60 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities on our books. The only way they can pay is to print more phony money.

A real dollar has always been and still is a coin with about an ounce of silver. Debt money is a sin called usery in the Bible. You can buy real dollars from the US mint, thanks to the bill authored by Ron Paul in the eighties. But one real dollar will cost you about 28 federal reserve notes, while one Eagle (10 dollars) will cost you around 900 federal reserve notes.

Actually federal reserve notes are not even real bank notes, since they are not redeemable for real money.

Check out this video.

Money - A Brief History of the America Dollar
 
unknownpro said:
Ninety thousand dollars in his freezer is nothing compared to the 700 billion stolen in plain sight last week. Where is the FBI now?


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you know the answer.
 
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GrindinGear said:
I got stiffed by a pool player once....shoulda made him post too....18 years of child support that is!!!

Sorry really bad joke, but true!
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I cant beleive we can't let this thread DIE.thx GrindinGear.:(
 
poolcurious said:
Those that dont post lose the most!!
I hate to sound like a jerk but, you played and took that chance when you didnt post. There is no betters insurance in gambling and if he said the other guys were in on it, they probably were but hell, they probably thought they had a winner. When Ronnie lost I would wanna say I had no part either although I couldnt actually do that to someone.

The he said she said thing wont ever really be known unless they fess up. Announcing a stiff job isnt really the way to go IMHO. I would assume you'll get paid eventually by the player since he needs to gamble for a living and would hate to lose action over it. I'd be pissed if I was Ronnie and got stuck like this by the other two guys if thats what happened.

How many times has the guy lost and paid? I would guess most times. We all have things that happen, work it out amongst yourselves and avoid creating more damaging news in the pool world.

From what I understand hes been gambling for over 20 years and this is one of the few times Ive heard of him in this way.............Ive heard alot of things but not this.

Maybe you are best served to learn your lesson and move on instead of damaging someones only way to make a living. Getting stiffed is a part of gambling and not just in pool.........hell ask the bookies if they get paid on all bets!!

Good luck, I feel for you but to be honest it isnt much because its called gambling for more than one reason! POST POST POST and if you dont, keep the results to yourself. I dont think we need more bad press in this game!

Sorry, I know I'm gonna get beat up for that response but its an opinion and a tough lesson learned for the stiffee!!
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this isnt beating you up : ) just my $.02
(assuming this story is accurate as i dnt know either party)

if ronnie got stiffed by his backers... thats his problem(he should post up here about the 2 backers and ruin their action too). He was betting ronnie, not the backers. and to say you shouldnt tell people what happened because he needs to gamble, i cant agree with you here, if you dont want people to say you stiffed em, then dont stiff em. And i'd also have to say that its not posting damaging things thats bad for pool, Its the douche bags who do these things that are bad for pool.
and as for how many other people he lost and paid too... Is that a free pass not to pay up?? would you let someone off for close to 4 Gs because they've paid other people??? I personally have never welched a bet but if you wanna play for 3900 with me im sure i could find a giant air barrel.
POST POST POST ABSOLUTELY !!!!!!! does he share the blame for not making him post YES. Does that make the guy who stiffed him less of douche ??
 
GrindinGear said:
I got stiffed by a pool player once....shoulda made him post too....18 years of child support that is!!!

Sorry really bad joke, but true!
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How was I suppose to know?
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Dirt ???

I am not so sure about the intent of throwing dirt as much as just kinda wonderin if this was ever resolved .... I am not for the dirt throwin but have been curious as well . As many views as there has been on this post it appears many others would like to know also .. Sooo , what is the outcome please ???
Howard, also in Mississippi
 
let it fly

I know i'm gonna regret this ,because Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (especially marissa) but here goes ; I'll let you throw (not dirt) but mud on me for $3900.00 . I was just wanted to find out the truth baby , sorry. Have you ever thought about being the moderator here? you'd make a good one. now i'm bracing myself for the bashing, let it fly.
 
Throwing dirt on Ronnie? How much dirtier can a dirtbag get? I don't care who was backing what or where the money should have been or come from, Ronnie was playing, he lost, the debt did not get paid. His problem, and he needs to take care of it. Screw 'em.
 
What page did you guys have to go to find this OLD crap?. Maybe you should read the orignal post date of this thread?
 
For those with no reading comprehension, yes the debt was paid. The OP stated it more than a couple times, I believe in this thread, and a separate thread of its own.

If you guys are so curious and just had to know, I don't know why you didn't just read it for yourself instead of bumping old news.

And Ronnie Wiseman has never been a dirtbag that I've seen. He's always been extremely polite.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
For those with no reading comprehension, yes the debt was paid. The OP stated it more than a couple times, I believe in this thread, and a separate thread of its own.

If you guys are so curious and just had to know, I don't know why you didn't just read it for yourself instead of bumping old news.

And Ronnie Wiseman has never been a dirtbag that I've seen. He's always been extremely polite.
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Reading comp is fine...saves lots of wear n tear on the ol eyes to let a young eager beaver get me up to speed.

i o u 1:)
 
Sweet Marissa said:
For those with no reading comprehension, yes the debt was paid. The OP stated it more than a couple times, I believe in this thread, and a separate thread of its own.

If you guys are so curious and just had to know, I don't know why you didn't just read it for yourself instead of bumping old news.

And Ronnie Wiseman has never been a dirtbag that I've seen. He's always been extremely polite.
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he should have just let the guy know it would take some more time to gather his 3900.and we wouldnt be on this thread at all. ronnie is a good man.just got in a pinch for a bit.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
For those with no reading comprehension, yes the debt was paid. The OP stated it more than a couple times, I believe in this thread, and a separate thread of its own.

If you guys are so curious and just had to know, I don't know why you didn't just read it for yourself instead of bumping old news.

And Ronnie Wiseman has never been a dirtbag that I've seen. He's always been extremely polite.
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Marissa, you don't get it. Here is Shawn's response to this thread.

ShawnD said:
I dont understand why Ronnie is doing this but oh well. Just for the record i want everyone to know that I retracted in the original thread because Ronnie asked me to in order for him to start paying.

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10. $3900 owed in the beginning
$1100 paid
$2800 left owed
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Everyone is right to ask if the $2,800 has been paid. The only reason Shawn got the next $1,100 was this thread and he was threatened by Ronnie to never be paid if he didn't post that it was a misunderstanding. In my mind, that makes Ronnie not only a weasel but an extortionist and a thief.
 
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