Get a NEW BLACK BOAR...around $6,000

I decided to throw in my two cents worth after reading 155 replies...

I think that we are living in a new age and that we have to adapt to it. We can read it many times a week on this board that 'If only I ordered a dozen of 700 dollar priced fancy cues from Gus' or if only I bought that Bushka that was offered to me decades ago for $150.

We can't order any more cues from Gus, may he rest in peace and we can't get $700 fancy cues from our times top cue makers either.

We have to see and consider premium offerings on today's market and have to make our decisions quickly and well.
Momentarily we are being offered 6 opportunities with which we will either live or let it die.

I am not in the position of buying a six thousand dollar cue, but I am studying my butt off to help this turn into reality, but if I could, I would, for sure.

Yes, I could buy 3 cues by . . . . . ., with inlays that are shaped differently.

No, thanks, I'd rather be one of those six who possess a cue built by a great maker, and we must confess, a rather good business man, as well.




David, very well said.....I knew I should have went to college..LOL

steve
 
so, how did you guys rise from the "peanut gallery" and become "experts" at value? several posters in this thread have very active high end cue collections and could well afford 6k on a cue and if they they think there are better values for the money then who is to say they are wrong and you are right? does being able to afford whatever someone wants make them "experts" or "clueless??? that's twice in this thread this type of comment has been made. do you have to be able to afford anything you want to have an opinion?

guy

Not saying I am above anything or have risen from jack. My collection is all over the map, and I never put on any airs here.......I like good cues ranging from dirt cheap to a lot..........simple as that!

I just think its dead wrong to piss on someone's informational post, attack him because he possibly can afford such sticks, and say just because is a Plain Jane, it can't possibly be worth that much. There are too many Price Nazi's on here, ripping people's prices in general is bad form. It's one thing to have an opinion, but somewhere along the line, decorum and social grace must come into play

Barry, if you got a PJ like Kam's, send it my way baby!
 
I LIKE THE DISCUSSION THAT THESE CUES HAVE STARTED.......

WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS WE LOOK FOR, AND THIS HAS BROUGHT SOME GOOD INPUT OUT FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.

I WOULDN'T PAY 6K FOR THESE CUES, AND I'M SURE SOME OF MY FRIENDS WOULD. I'M ALSO SURE THAT SOME OF MY FRIENDS WOULDN'T SPEND 600 ON THEM. TO EACH THEIR OWN!

Marcus <--- GLAD I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE, I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY ATTENTION
 
It's one thing to have an opinion, but somewhere along the line, decorum and social grace must come into play
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i would like to think that goes both ways. for the most part this has been a discussion and that is what is going to happen on a thread like this.

guy
 
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i would like to think that goes both ways. for the most part this has been a discussion and that is what is going to happen on a thread like this.

guy
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Sure is nice to live in America where there's so many a__ h___ opinions. L.O.L. "country"
 
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There are too many Price Nazi's on here, ripping people's prices in general is bad form.
not sure if you are referring to me!?
i did not 'attack' anyone.
this thread shouldnt really even be in this section, since the OP is not selling anything.
since it was not started by the seller there should be zero problem with a discussion of value.
 
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I hope not. But that does seem to be the general consensus here. Unfortunately, there are a ton of people here that become experts simply by OWNING a high end cue. I never understood that.

9 out of 10 of them liekly couldn't glue two twigs together. But somehow, they are experts because A) they know which names are the big names; B) they buy based on pricetags and cuemaker clout.[/QUOTE]

I have an issue with your statement about this whole couldn't glue two twigs together....I accept your challange and here is the result..

2009COMBINATOR006.jpg


Just to prove a point....if you notice I exceeded the two twigs and did three.....I glued three twigs togehter. I am sure my fellow collectors can do the same without hesitation.

SO, please before making such assumptions(accusations) please do your homework.

Here is another picture just to make sure you don't think this is trick photography.

2009COMBINATOR009.jpg


Until that time
 
I hope not. But that does seem to be the general consensus here. Unfortunately, there are a ton of people here that become experts simply by OWNING a high end cue. I never understood that.

9 out of 10 of them liekly couldn't glue two twigs together. But somehow, they are experts because A) they know which names are the big names; B) they buy based on pricetags and cuemaker clout.[/QUOTE]

I have an issue with your statement about this whole couldn't glue two twigs together....I accept your challange and here is the result..



Just to prove a point....if you notice I exceeded the two twigs and did three.....I glued three twigs togehter. I am sure my fellow collectors can do the same without hesitation.

SO, please before making such assumptions(accusations) please do your homework.

Here is another picture just to make sure you don't think this is trick photography.



Until that time


ROTFLMAO.........


YOU HAVE ALOT OF FREE TIME.

Marcus <---- STILL THINK MIA HAS A POINT THOUGH
 
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Anyone who is a high end cue collector should have done their due dilligence and researched each cuemaker and visited their shops to see how they build cues - this is some of what makes a high end collector a little more knowledgeable about the value of a certain cuemakers cues.
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in regards to the price for these cues, I know that Tony sets his prices by the amount of time and man hrs he has in the cue. He doesn't just "pull a number out of the air". It may be hard for some to believe but these cues have been in production since winter. With the quality standards that Tony wants in his cues, it takes a very long time to do what others would consider a simple task. EX. he does not use ANY 5 min. epoxy everything is 24 hr., the shafts are cut numerous times and dried over 6 months min.- there are hundreds of things like this. You have to remember, he makes every componet in each cue, starting from raw materials- except for the pin.
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Another thing to remember is that you could have Tony's cue and another cue that looks the same, and if you compared them, they wouln't play the same (for sure). But which cue is going to last a lifetime, which cue will hold up best to the changes in humidity and temp. over the years, which cue will have the best woods (shaft and Butt ), which cue will have 54 real silver inlays- not stickers, which cue will have real lizard wraps. And on top of all that which cue will feel better when you are playing. To finish it off- how many other cuemakers cues constantly go up in value?, ---not many.
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So IMHO, unless you have spent some time at Tony's shop and you know how he builds cues, you should reserve your judgment
 
Ps. The twigs are not just any old twigs...these twigs were very,very expensive and some would say are you crazy spending that kind of money on twigs.....as a twig collector and prefering expensive twigs I believe it is worth every penny and because I can.
 
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I hope not. But that does seem to be the general consensus here. Unfortunately, there are a ton of people here that become experts simply by OWNING a high end cue. I never understood that.

9 out of 10 of them liekly couldn't glue two twigs together. But somehow, they are experts because A) they know which names are the big names; B) they buy based on pricetags and cuemaker clout.[/QUOTE]

I have an issue with your statement about this whole couldn't glue two twigs together....I accept your challange and here is the result..

2009COMBINATOR006.jpg


Just to prove a point....if you notice I exceeded the two twigs and did three.....I glued three twigs togehter. I am sure my fellow collectors can do the same without hesitation.

SO, please before making such assumptions(accusations) please do your homework.

Here is another picture just to make sure you don't think this is trick photography.

2009COMBINATOR009.jpg


Until that time

Is that a limited edition and possibly worth much $$$ if you become one of our elite cuemakers? Not bad for the first attempt Bro!
 
hey scott, is that amboyna burl or thuya burl? nice choice of wood and great job on the attaching. now, how can you inlay some dice in it? and maybe an ivory joint? keep up the good work.

guy...<still thinks that scott has my favorite gambler cue of all time!>
 
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not sure if you are referring to me!?
i did not "attacked" anyone.
this thread shouldnt really even be in this section, since the OP is not selling anything.
since it was not started by the seller there should be zero problem with a discussion of value.



now that's funny



Simmer down Jeff.........LOL.........its just the way some of these posts go, wasn't singling ya out. You have a nice collection and you know what a good cue is. Lord knows you've paid bank for some of them

Hey you never know what will come out of my mouth in the spirit of levity, sometimes it will lack all vestiges of decorum..........(dumb c_nt analogy)..........but you will have a hard time catching me ripping someone's cue/price/info that an OP brings forth with good intentions
 
I hope not. But that does seem to be the general consensus here. Unfortunately, there are a ton of people here that become experts simply by OWNING a high end cue. I never understood that.

9 out of 10 of them liekly couldn't glue two twigs together. But somehow, they are experts because A) they know which names are the big names; B) they buy based on pricetags and cuemaker clout.[/QUOTE]

I have an issue with your statement about this whole couldn't glue two twigs together....I accept your challange and here is the result..

2009COMBINATOR006.jpg


Just to prove a point....if you notice I exceeded the two twigs and did three.....I glued three twigs togehter. I am sure my fellow collectors can do the same without hesitation.

SO, please before making such assumptions(accusations) please do your homework.

Here is another picture just to make sure you don't think this is trick photography.

2009COMBINATOR009.jpg


Until that time

I have to admit... this was one of the best posts I've ever read!!! My hats off to you.

But I have to say, you proved my point: I can clearly see the gluelines. LOL.

Check your PMs.
 
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