Jamison Neu

wow it looks like i'm not the only one who has never heard of this guy.

jamison how about you post a video of yourself and then as what we think.


but since we're asking how do you think i play? any areas that could use improvement?
 
so nice he had to post it twice!

JamisonNeu said:
Thanks everyone.

Dieckman you are to kind you had to want to get better so how about giving yourself a little credit too. Plus what is the deal posting that twice? FUB
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Jamison,

Dieckman figured you were so nice he had to post it twice! However this thread and other threads on here recently clearly indicate that you don't have the name recognition for your personal cue to demand a premium price because you had used it. It might add a little to a premium cue but almost anybody buying a $400-$600 cue is buying a playing cue.

My guess and this is purely a guess, I don't deal in cues, is that the cue is worth about 75-80% of real retail price, not list price. If the shaft has thirty dark lines per inch that is probably a bigger selling point than your name. I don't know enough about the rest of the cue to even guess how it would hit and the shaft wood alone doesn't make a cue.

I have seen you perform on video, very impressive. You haven't been exposed enough to have widespread name recognition yet however and you are in the same position as every young gun that might be the next great. Most will disappear for one reason or another. People have to assume that the odds are that you won't become the next household name either. I do know you have the potential and wish you the best but you aren't likely to get far selling what might be.

My opinions of course,
Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
Jamison,

Dieckman figured you were so nice he had to post it twice! However this thread and other threads on here recently clearly indicate that you don't have the name recognition for your personal cue to demand a premium price because you had used it. It might add a little to a premium cue but almost anybody buying a $400-$600 cue is buying a playing cue.

My guess and this is purely a guess, I don't deal in cues, is that the cue is worth about 75-80% of real retail price, not list price. If the shaft has thirty dark lines per inch that is probably a bigger selling point than your name. I don't know enough about the rest of the cue to even guess how it would hit and the shaft wood alone doesn't make a cue.

I have seen you perform on video, very impressive. You haven't been exposed enough to have widespread name recognition yet however and you are in the same position as every young gun that might be the next great. Most will disappear for one reason or another. People have to assume that the odds are that you won't become the next household name either. I do know you have the potential and wish you the best but you aren't likely to get far selling what might be.

My opinions of course,
Hu
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Thanks for watching my video. I don't disagree, there is a small chance that I wont be a household name one day. I think your short selling me cause of your own doubts in yourself it called projection. :D I hope you just laughed cause I am joking. I play pool cause it is cool.

Tell you what if you buy the cue I'll sell it to you for $400
 
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thanks

JamisonNeu said:
Thanks for watching my video. I don't disagree, there is a small chance that I wont be a houshold name one day. I think your short selling me cause of your own doubts in yourself it called projection. :D I hope you just laughed cause I am joking. I play pool cause it is cool.

Tell you what if you buy the cue I'll sell it to you for $400
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Jamison,

I am glad to see that you believe in yourself and I hope you reach your goals. I reached the goals I set for myself in pool long ago, including staying under the radar. I beat some of the very best and all they ever knew me by was "Hugh" or one of a half-dozen nonpool related nicknames since I never had any cause to spell my name or give any more of my name.

I would take you up on the cue at that price however I prefer to make my own. My own cues are absolutely the best for me and the price/value ratio is fantastic. :D :D :D

I played pool with Mike Massey long long ago. He had won a few fair sized tournaments and had started making a name for himself but still had decades to go before having his current name recognition. I wouldn't have given him anything for his name back then either. Still wouldn't although a cue he played with for years should command a small premium, I don't like him. A reminder of what first impressions are worth. I met him long before he turned his life around and back then he could spot Earl the orange crush in obnoxious. :D :D :D

Hu

A quick edit to clarify. I am just noticing you posted some video links. I meant I have watched you several times over the years. I do know who you are and some of your accomplishments. I first remember you from when you were trying to put together a building and video if I remember correctly. I have learned a lot about putting together buildings since then, still don't know much about video!
 
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Damn thought I sold it...$400 is a great deal on that cue.

Anyway there is a one pocket match where I play Cliff Joyner. You will have to ask Spheragon for the video...www.spheragon.com

I put up a pretty good fight. Grady and JR Calvert do talking...anyway there is the only proof of me playing at all.
 
Doesn't Jamison have a world masse championship? A world title in any pool genre is pretty impressive to me.

When I played Jamison, I thought he played really well. You're gonna have to be a PLAYA to beat him. Obviously, he has the stroke to get from point A to B better than almost anyone.
 
I don't know what happened

JamisonNeu said:
Damn thought I sold it...$400 is a great deal on that cue.

Anyway there is a one pocket match where I play Cliff Joyner. You will have to ask Spheragon for the video...www.spheragon.com

I put up a pretty good fight. Grady and JR Calvert do talking...anyway there is the only proof of me playing at all.
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They put up three video's awhile back with more "coming soon". Coming soon seems to not mean anytime soon however. I do know you are a very impressive performer and suspect that you would be a fine competitor if that was where you focused your efforts for awhile.

Hu
 
I spent a month with Jamison working for us at Fury and wanted to kill him every day. Dennis' post pretty much sums it up about as perfectly as can be said.

I want to add that Jamison has all the talent one could wish for as far as moving a cueball around the table. Along with that he has the business sense of a rock and probably will never go as far as that talent should take him.

When he is "on" and somewhat subdued with running commentary he is very very impressive to watch. When the mouth is going on about how "easy" pool is and how people are morons who play pool as opposed to artistic billiards then it's a real turn off.

IF Jamison could develop a show with a good script that he can stick to he could EASILY tour the US and the world and make a really good living. Jamison has all the stroke and more than Semih Sayginer. I think that Sayginer probably does ok financially impressing people around the world with his stroke shots. Jamsion does all that on slow cloth with six holes and unwaxed balls.

Hell I could make a friggin GREAT living with half his talent.

But as it stands lesser talents will go further simply because they know how to do business and how to work the crowd without insulting them.

So there you go J. That's my contribution to your "space to talk about you".
 
You should have been a country singer... Sounds like you woke up and drank a fifth of whiskey, then chased it down with some rocks. :thumbup:
 
Terry Ardeno thank you for watching.

John Barton Thank you

Remember FURY was a long time ago,that was 5 years ago. I think you can get much different, and better reference out there now. Time can change people. I hope you have changed some as well.
 
I watched Jamison play and talked to him a bit. I also looked at a video and some of his threads.

Jamison, the only advice I can offer on improving your 10 ball game is ball control and strategy. At the level you're at, practically no one misses a shot. At the Gem City I saw three misses by top pros and maybe 15 scratches. Defense and position play separated the winners from the losers.

There's no money in being a touring pro, for most players. Pool has to be the poorest professional sport there is. The worst funded. Players are treated shabbily and it looks like only the promoters and the top few pros make any money. Or maybe play the tour to keep your hand in and your name and face out there.

Take your shot making talent and combine it with your gift of gab. Be an entertainer. Polish your patter and put on artistic shows. Be pool's genial goodwill ambassador. Get people to pay you just for showing up. Make people want to pay to see you play and want to learn from you. The pool world is full of unique people. It's possible to be eccentric without being a butthole and probably pays better.

When you played Earl, the crowd was there to see him. They wondered what he'd do next, especially after his Friday match. You lost the match but won the crowd by not allowing yourself to be baited by his complaining. You bantered with him without escalating the situation, kept it light and friendly. Keep doing that and the crowd will be there to watch you.

p.s. One job in the pool world that seems to pay steady cash money is table mechanic. Even crappy mechanics make money working for table wholesalers. But the best ones - like Taylor Sain, who recovered the tables for the Gem City and was on hand to check on and correct any problems during the tournament - can get all the work they want. It's hard work but I think you could do it. You've done every other job known to man! :smile:
 
Overall I think your a great guy with a great game. The following comments are meant to be constructive criticism and suggestions.

1. Buy a shirt that fits and tuck it in.
2. Work on your hair style a little. Get advice from females they will steer you
in the right direction.
3. As earlier posters have said do not go the tournament route, work on some
kind of routine to work a crowd and do exhibitions. You could be like the
Harlem Globetrotters of pool. You do have a gift for gab. Really work on
some type of show. View yourself as an entertainer, don't be afraid of being
outrageous.

Well that's all I got. Good luck to you.
 
JamisonNeu said:
Here is the spot to post your opinions about my game, and me. Thank you!
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I've never heard of you, Neu. Well, all I do know about you is based on those couple youtube links you posted. I'm glad I can speak my mind, because you give me the green light ;)

Okay...my impression of your game: I can't really judge your "game" because I've never seen you play a game. I did watch you masse however. I will say you have an above average stroke and can masse the ball pretty darn well.

Now...my impression of you: You come off a little weird in both those short clips I've seen you in and the way you write. I'll give you credit for exposing yourself like this...takes balls. If you have to ask people to post opinions about you, how sure of yourself are you? In the clips, it did sound like you were insulting the crowd a bit. You also seem a little manic. Some meds may help you with that. This is NOT sarcasm either! I really believe the right meds will help you calm down a bit. Thanks for the green light and good luck with your future :thumbup:
 
Thanks everyone I am glad you liked our match. Earl played very strong.

No I am not going to get on any meds. :eek: I don't even take asprin.
 
jkbales said:
I watched Jamison play and talked to him a bit. I also looked at a video and some of his threads.

Jamison, the only advice I can offer on improving your 10 ball game is ball control and strategy. At the level you're at, practically no one misses a shot. At the Gem City I saw three misses by top pros and maybe 15 scratches. Defense and position play separated the winners from the losers.

There's no money in being a touring pro, for most players. Pool has to be the poorest professional sport there is. The worst funded. Players are treated shabbily and it looks like only the promoters and the top few pros make any money. Or maybe play the tour to keep your hand in and your name and face out there.

Take your shot making talent and combine it with your gift of gab. Be an entertainer. Polish your patter and put on artistic shows. Be pool's genial goodwill ambassador. Get people to pay you just for showing up. Make people want to pay to see you play and want to learn from you. The pool world is full of unique people. It's possible to be eccentric without being a butthole and probably pays better.

When you played Earl, the crowd was there to see him. They wondered what he'd do next, especially after his Friday match. You lost the match but won the crowd by not allowing yourself to be baited by his complaining. You bantered with him without escalating the situation, kept it light and friendly. Keep doing that and the crowd will be there to watch you.

p.s. One job in the pool world that seems to pay steady cash money is table mechanic. Even crappy mechanics make money working for table wholesalers. But the best ones - like Taylor Sain, who recovered the tables for the Gem City and was on hand to check on and correct any problems during the tournament - can get all the work they want. It's hard work but I think you could do it. You've done every other job known to man! :smile:
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Taylor is conscientious. He pays attention. I like the work he did on the tables. (Only met him that one time at GEM city classic) I'm impressed.
JoeyA
 
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