This is all I have to say.

Grady

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I'm really proud of Tom Watson. I ask respectfully. Why should I be denied my opportunity to play in my sport? It is disgracefulm for me not to receive an invitation to the straight pool tournament.
 
I'm really proud of Tom Watson. I ask respectfully. Why should I be denied my opportunity to play in my sport? It is disgracefulm for me not to receive an invitation to the straight pool tournament.
How much is the entry fee to get in??
 
I'm really proud of Tom Watson. I ask respectfully. Why should I be denied my opportunity to play in my sport? It is disgracefulm for me not to receive an invitation to the straight pool tournament.


Here we go again!!! you are in your golden years and you need to learn to live the rest of your life with pride & dignity.If u keep coming up with this kind of drama on and off on AZB, there will always be some who will strip u of that pride and dignity. Do you like to hear some one on this board remind you that you are old and can`t play a lick and hence you are not invited? your time was over long time ago.Just take care of your pool hall business.:cool:
 
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Grady,

I think you're one of the greatest players to have graced the table. I have an autographed cue ball from you prominantly displayed in my pool room. Honestly though, what have you done as far as tournament pool in the last 10 years that you think you should EARN an invitation?

Jim
 
Grady,

I think you're one of the greatest players to have graced the table. I have an autographed cue ball from you prominantly displayed in my pool room. Honestly though, what have you done as far as tournament pool in the last 10 years that you think you should EARN an invitation?

Jim
I want toknowhow much the entry fee is? I know Grady has a good pool room and can afford to get in under his own steam. I'm just not sure why he is on here begging to be let in. Who else is getting a invitation? If there are lesser players from the past getting invitations then I can maybe understand his dissapointment and reason to ask. However there are people like Nick Varner who is a HOFer that does not always get invited to tourneys. Just wondering what the deal is and why this thread is here. I do not dissagree that Grady is a great Champ but if you don't get invited then you don't get invited. Go on your own, If I had to talk someone into letting me come to their house then at the end of the day I would not feel welcome when they eventually gave in and said "OH OK comeif you want" I hope this makes sense.
 
Tom watson

I'm really proud of Tom Watson. I ask respectfully. Why should I be denied my opportunity to play in my sport? It is disgracefulm for me not to receive an invitation to the straight pool tournament.

I agree that age should not make a difference if your skills are still up to par.
But you should not have to ask to be invited.
You own a room start your own tournament and invite those who you want.


I would never join a club that would have me as a member!!!:D:thumbup:
 
I agree that age should not make a difference if your skills are still up to par.
But you should not have to ask to be invited.
You own a room start your own tournament and invite those who you want.


I would never join a club that would have me as a member!!!:D:thumbup:
Groucho's line. I agree, I don't want to have to ask for an invite anywhere, whether it be to a party, dinner at a friends house or anything else.
 
Agree or disagree with Grady - many of you are missing the point. Someone with multiple world championships (at any game) shouldn't worry about an invite ever. Whether or not he can win, the crowd loves to watch older legends get into the pit with younger competition. We got to see a little of it in the IPT - and we loved it.

The argument of "a younger player should get that spot who has a chance to win" is ridiculous - just create more spots. I think if you're a former world champion at any game - you have a chance to win. You might be a huge underdog, but you have a prayer. If you were looking to bet on Watson a week ago, what do you think you could have pulled-in as far as odds go?!?

Our sport doesn't do a good job in paying homage to our great players. When the Masters lets Nicklaus, Player, and Palmer tee off in the first grouping----- does ANYONE HERE ON AZB THINK THOSE OLD F's HAVE A PRAYER TO WIN!??!??? ANYONE? It's not the point. It's respect for the game and respect for the legends. How big do you think the galleries are around those guys who have no shot to win? I went to the Masters one year and let me tell you---- you can't get close to them and everyone watched them hack up the course and stood in awe with love and admiration.

Would'ves and Could'ves don't really matter--- it's WHAT IS that counts. It's sad to see Grady get on here and post how he should be able to play. If pool was more organized like golf, he probably would be able to play. Let's face it, the pool industry is a cannabalistic, siloed, insular and backward/sideways-looking sector. If pool were innovative, the organizing bodies would pull off IPT-like events that allowed any HOFer automatic/free entry, legend $$$ players CHEAP entry and seed all of them against the normal modern players. Imagine how marketable the videos would be?

Instead, pool is on the verge with tournaments going away, pool halls disappearing and few younger players getting involved. We need guys like Grady, McCready, Varner, Hopkins, Hall, and all the other geriatric players who I'd rather watch than any younger guy. Tournaments are BORING without them - plain and simple. Whoever manages the world 14.1 is eating their young by being dicks and not allowing former world champions, legends, HOFers, and the likes to play.

Keep b1tching Grady---- eventually some business neophyte at the world 14.1 office and get a bright idea to incorporate what I just posted. When it does happen, it's likely because you b1tched and opened up their blind eyes.

P.S.

Gee, if I recall, the last time I went to the Derby I watched Grady take Efren to the hill at some bank pool. Imagine that?
 
Grady,

you are a True Master of the game of 14.1, if anyone deserves to be there its you..... Maybe it is just fear as to why you didnt get the invite, i am sure that you can show those youngins a thing or two. i for one would love to see it !

Steve
 
Agree or disagree with Grady - many of you are missing the point. Someone with multiple world championships (at any game) shouldn't worry about an invite ever. Whether or not he can win, the crowd loves to watch older legends get into the pit with younger competition. We got to see a little of it in the IPT - and we loved it.

The argument of "a younger player should get that spot who has a chance to win" is ridiculous - just create more spots. I think if you're a former world champion at any game - you have a chance to win. You might be a huge underdog, but you have a prayer. If you were looking to bet on Watson a week ago, what do you think you could have pulled-in as far as odds go?!?

Our sport doesn't do a good job in paying homage to our great players. When the Masters lets Nicklaus, Player, and Palmer tee off in the first grouping----- does ANYONE HERE ON AZB THINK THOSE OLD F's HAVE A PRAYER TO WIN!??!??? ANYONE? It's not the point. It's respect for the game and respect for the legends. How big do you think the galleries are around those guys who have no shot to win? I went to the Masters one year and let me tell you---- you can't get close to them and everyone watched them hack up the course and stood in awe with love and admiration.

Would'ves and Could'ves don't really matter--- it's WHAT IS that counts. It's sad to see Grady get on here and post how he should be able to play. If pool was more organized like golf, he probably would be able to play. Let's face it, the pool industry is a cannabalistic, siloed, insular and backward/sideways-looking sector. If pool were innovative, the organizing bodies would pull off IPT-like events that allowed any HOFer automatic/free entry, legend $$$ players CHEAP entry and seed all of them against the normal modern players. Imagine how marketable the videos would be?

Instead, pool is on the verge with tournaments going away, pool halls disappearing and few younger players getting involved. We need guys like Grady, McCready, Varner, Hopkins, Hall, and all the other geriatric players who I'd rather watch than any younger guy. Tournaments are BORING without them - plain and simple. Whoever manages the world 14.1 is eating their young by being dicks and not allowing former world champions, legends, HOFers, and the likes to play.

Keep b1tching Grady---- eventually some business neophyte at the world 14.1 office and get a bright idea to incorporate what I just posted. When it does happen, it's likely because you b1tched and opened up their blind eyes.

P.S.

Gee, if I recall, the last time I went to the Derby I watched Grady take Efren to the hill at some bank pool. Imagine that?
Hey Spidey, I am not saying that he should not be invited. Just so I am clear to everyone here. I am saying that if you are not invited then do you really want to run around asking to be invited?? He should not have to do that,
 
Agree or disagree with Grady - many of you are missing the point. Someone with multiple world championships (at any game) shouldn't worry about an invite ever. Whether or not he can win, the crowd loves to watch older legends get into the pit with younger competition. We got to see a little of it in the IPT - and we loved it.

The argument of "a younger player should get that spot who has a chance to win" is ridiculous - just create more spots. I think if you're a former world champion at any game - you have a chance to win. You might be a huge underdog, but you have a prayer. If you were looking to bet on Watson a week ago, what do you think you could have pulled-in as far as odds go?!?

Our sport doesn't do a good job in paying homage to our great players. When the Masters lets Nicklaus, Player, and Palmer tee off in the first grouping----- does ANYONE HERE ON AZB THINK THOSE OLD F's HAVE A PRAYER TO WIN!??!??? ANYONE? It's not the point. It's respect for the game and respect for the legends. How big do you think the galleries are around those guys who have no shot to win? I went to the Masters one year and let me tell you---- you can't get close to them and everyone watched them hack up the course and stood in awe with love and admiration.

Would'ves and Could'ves don't really matter--- it's WHAT IS that counts. It's sad to see Grady get on here and post how he should be able to play. If pool was more organized like golf, he probably would be able to play. Let's face it, the pool industry is a cannabalistic, siloed, insular and backward/sideways-looking sector. If pool were innovative, the organizing bodies would pull off IPT-like events that allowed any HOFer automatic/free entry, legend $$$ players CHEAP entry and seed all of them against the normal modern players. Imagine how marketable the videos would be?

Instead, pool is on the verge with tournaments going away, pool halls disappearing and few younger players getting involved. We need guys like Grady, McCready, Varner, Hopkins, Hall, and all the other geriatric players who I'd rather watch than any younger guy. Tournaments are BORING without them - plain and simple. Whoever manages the world 14.1 is eating their young by being dicks and not allowing former world champions, legends, HOFers, and the likes to play.

Keep b1tching Grady---- eventually some business neophyte at the world 14.1 office and get a bright idea to incorporate what I just posted. When it does happen, it's likely because you b1tched and opened up their blind eyes.

P.S.

Gee, if I recall, the last time I went to the Derby I watched Grady take Efren to the hill at some bank pool. Imagine that?

Thank You Spidey

(sorry I can't rep - have to "spread it around")
 
Hey Spidey, I am not saying that he should not be invited. Just so I am clear to everyone here. I am saying that if you are not invited then do you really want to run around asking to be invited?? He should not have to do that,

You're right - he SHOULDN'T have to do that--- but apparently he DOES, right? So whose fault is it? Not Grady's, 100% for sure.
 
I'm really proud of Tom Watson. I ask respectfully. Why should I be denied my opportunity to play in my sport? It is disgracefulm for me not to receive an invitation to the straight pool tournament.


Grady please remember; "If you got to say you are - You ain't"


Don't get intimidated for such a thing, you deserve better.
 
Grady,

I think you're one of the greatest players to have graced the table. I have an autographed cue ball from you prominantly displayed in my pool room. Honestly though, what have you done as far as tournament pool in the last 10 years that you think you should EARN an invitation?

Jim

I think the question should be more like...What have you done for the game in your lifetime. Not just the last ten years. I know if Gradys name is on the list of players he is going to draw a crowd. That's good for the promoter the fans, everyone wins. Grady is a fantastic player that has devoted his entire life to this game and played at a world class level for a good portion of it. If that doesn't "EARN" him an invitation what should? :confused:
 
I'm really proud of Tom Watson. I ask respectfully. Why should I be denied my opportunity to play in my sport? It is disgracefulm for me not to receive an invitation to the straight pool tournament.

Respectfully, I wouldn't compare myself to the PGA if I was you.

Once Tom Watson becomes 60, he will be ineligible to play in the British Open unless he places high enough to get an exemption next year.

If the Straight Pool rules mimmicked the PGA, you wouldn't get an invite.
 
My last thought on the subject... all of the younger players who ARE able to play should be lobbying to get the older guys in. Before you know it, your young ass will be an AARP ass and you won't be able to play either. Better get it straight before it's too late for you as well. That's it;)



Edit: Grady, you're one of my HEROES. You were the first pro I ever saw in person and the first pro I ever saw in A-C-T-I-O-N (GO FIGURE). I hope someday I can play 1/2 as good as you do now--- let alone in your prime. Love ya, brother-
 
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Here we go again!!! you are in your golden years and you need to learn to live the rest of your life with pride & dignity.If u keep coming up with this kind of drama on and off on AZB, there will always be some who will strip u of that pride and dignity. Do you like to hear some one on this board remind you that you are old and can`t play a lick and hence you are not invited? your time was over long time ago.Just take care of your pool hall business.:cool:

i'd like to see you play him if you think he can't play a lick
 
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