Yu Ram Cha mignt be the best ever

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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I had the pleasure of watching Jean Baluks play in NY many times in her prime and Allison play since she arrived here more than ten years ago. Jean and Allison are about even in my book when both were in their prime. Allison might still be in her prime, hard to tell because there are so many great women players on tour now. But I'm going to have to say that Yu Ram Cha might be on her way to being best women player in history. She seems to get better every tournament she plays in. Johnnyt
 
Johnny -

She has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go (maybe another decade or so) before you can even consider her for that. And... to out-do Allison's record will be extremely tough. No matter how well she plays, she may never beat allison's record.

Too premature to make the comment by far, but I agree she's a tough player.

Dave
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Johnny -

She has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go (maybe another decade or so) before you can even consider her for that. And... to out-do Allison's record will be extremely tough. No matter how well she plays, she may never beat allison's record.

Too premature to make the comment by far, but I agree she's a tough player.

Dave
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You are correct Sir!!!

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SpiderWebComm said:
Johnny -

She has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go (maybe another decade or so) before you can even consider her for that. And... to out-do Allison's record will be extremely tough. No matter how well she plays, she may never beat allison's record.

Too premature to make the comment by far, but I agree she's a tough player.

Dave
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Most of Allisions championships were played on tables with large pockets and there were maybe two players that had a chance to beat her. That said I don't think anyone will ever beat Allisons record. Today you have ten women that can snap off an WPBA Tournament. But I said nothing about championships. I was talking about how well they play/played in their prime.

I'm not taking anything away from Allision. She is a champion on and off the table and I enjoy watching her play. Johnnyt
 
I like XT or Ga Young Kim over Yu Ram right now. Yu Ram does play great though and she plays an extremly smart game. I think she shot 2 safeties I have never even seen before againt Allison while she double dipped her.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Johnny -

She has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go (maybe another decade or so) before you can even consider her for that. And... to out-do Allison's record will be extremely tough. No matter how well she plays, she may never beat allison's record.

Too premature to make the comment by far, but I agree she's a tough player.

Dave
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She played wicked nasty the other night during the challenge match. I thought it was funny how long it took the anouncer to read all of the championships that Allison won.(reminded me of Tiger Woods) LOL But Yu Ram is really good...and she's a lefty:rolleyes:
 
Johnnyt said:
I had the pleasure of watching Jean Baluks play in NY many times in her prime and Allison play since she arrived here more than ten years ago. Jean and Allison are about even in my book when both were in their prime. Allison might still be in her prime, hard to tell because there are so many great women players on tour now. But I'm going to have to say that Yu Ram Cha might be on her way to being best women player in history. She seems to get better every tournament she plays in. Johnnyt
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She certainly is a great player, but after watching both sets, I would say Allison played way under par both sets. She scratched twice after making the eight in the first set and when she did make a little run at Yu, Cha showed a little weakness with her shot selection and even got a little lucky on a couple of misses. Cha did break the balls quite a bit better than Allison.

Tough conditions for both of them on much tighter equipment than they are used to.

She may well become the best player but IMO she is not there yet. John
 
I think Jean Balukus was the best. You have to remember she played on slow cloth where you really had to have a stroke. There wasn't any low deflections shafts back then. There also wasn't a quick draw cue ball back then to enhance your stroke. As I remember she won around 13 tournaments in a row which probably will never be repeated. She had alot of heart and knew how to compete to win which was what made her better than everybody else back then.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
And... to out-do Allison's record will be extremely tough. No matter how well she plays, she may never beat allison's record.
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I don't think anyone will ever top Allison's record. She was mostly playing on bucket tables against relatively weak women, but she HAS won about a thousand tournaments...

Ali inspired the women of the WPBA to get better, period. If not for her, we would probably still be watching Lori Jon against Ewa Laurence.

I think Xiao Ting Pan, (Ting-Ting), is the best player on tour today, but the average level of play is so high now, that it's hard to say that with any certainty.

Next month, it might be Gai-Young, then Monica, then Karen....There are a bunch of ladies capable of snapping off any tourney they enter.
 
needing a better stroke with slow cloth is a bit of a myth imo

and how you're putting this girl in the same league as Allison at this point is beyond me
 
Xiao Ting-Pan and Jasmin Ouschan are the 2 female players with the highest A-game, imo.

But who keeps their A-game on and on, match after match, tournament after tournament, year after year, well, that's another story.
 
smashmouth said:
needing a better stroke with slow cloth is a bit of a myth imo

and how you're putting this girl in the same league as Allison at this point is beyond me
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Slow cloth requires more speed to get around the table which requires you to hit the ball harder. The harder you hit the ball the harder it is to hit the ball exactly where you want to and controlling the ball is harder. I know several very good players who can go 3 rails around the table for shape on speed cloth but can't do it on slow cloth because the don't have the stroke to do it.

If you mean "this girl" is Jean Balakus I have had several WPBA players (including one in the hall of fame) that played both Jean and Allision and they said Jean was clearly the better player.
 
Johnnyt! She is playing excellent but before you can say she is playing the best remember one word, CONSISTENCY! Allison played fabulous for over a decade. Cha has played fabulous for about a year. Lets see how the next few years go before we say she plays better than Allison.
 
TWOFORPOOL said:
Slow cloth requires more speed to get around the table which requires you to hit the ball harder. The harder you hit the ball the harder it is to hit the ball exactly where you want to and controlling the ball is harder. I know several very good players who can go 3 rails around the table for shape on speed cloth but can't do it on slow cloth because the don't have the stroke to do it.

If you mean "this girl" is Jean Balakus I have had several WPBA players (including one in the hall of fame) that played both Jean and Allision and they said Jean was clearly the better player.
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lmfao, thanks for the attempted lesson there old timer

I can only suggest a little reading comprehension and a few key word searches in Google, once you figure out I was referring to Cha and learn a little regarding the disadvantages of newer cloths (i.e. skid) we'll chat more, untill then try not to throw out your back at the table partner

see ya
 
smashmouth said:
lmfao, thanks for the attempted lesson there old timer

I can only suggest a little reading comprehension and a few key word searches in Google, once you figure out I was referring to Cha and learn a little regarding the disadvantages of newer cloths (i.e. skid) we'll chat more, untill then try not to throw out your back at the table partner

see ya
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Excuse me for the misunderstanding. Now go beat some world class players and show us all how good you are.
 
smashmouth said:
lmfao, thanks for the attempted lesson there old timer

I can only suggest a little reading comprehension and a few key word searches in Google, once you figure out I was referring to Cha and learn a little regarding the disadvantages of newer cloths (i.e. skid) we'll chat more, untill then try not to throw out your back at the table partner

see ya
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Wow, what a dickhead post.

This wasn't even directed at me, and I'm offended.
 
Disclaimer: Not trying to pick a fight, so

Johnnyt said:
Most of Allisions championships were played on tables with large pockets and there were maybe two players that had a chance to beat her. That said I don't think anyone will ever beat Allisons record. Today you have ten women that can snap off an WPBA Tournament. But I said nothing about championships. I was talking about how well they play/played in their prime.

I'm not taking anything away from Allision. She is a champion on and off the table and I enjoy watching her play. Johnnyt
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Dont freak out on me, But, The way alot of people talk about Allisions record drives me crazy ( yea it might be a short trip ) The size of the pockets means nothing, unless of course it only made the game easier for her ( oh wait that would mean she was just better than the other players ). And the the feilds were weak, yea maybe in the early rounds, but to say there were only 2 players that had a chance to beat her, sh*t knowbody had to like playing her because knowbody could beat her, ( consistently) she was the best over all player for years. But to make that statment like there was only 2 other good players around is a bit narrow I think, Robin, Jon Jones, and Mrs. Laurance were all still playing when she first got here. Mrs. Lee must have been just a hack back then Gerda was a force for years, Vivian could hit the ball in a straight line. Im guessing the big oh pockets didnt make the game any easier for any of theses gals.. Allision started dominating almost as soon as her feet hit our soil, against the best there was at that time and many that would come, for years.

As far as Yu Ram, I havent scene her play that muchshe very well could be the next great thing but untill they at least make the races longer its a crap shoot if both players are playing their best. For now Id like to see her play a race to 30 or so against a few, Jasmin being one.
 
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