there sure have been a lot of new posts today!
Shawn Putnam for "Mosconi Cup"
- Thread starter Shawn Putnam
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That's because Hu (ShootingArts) "killed Shawn Putnam's action."
J/K,
-Sean
Shawn killed his own action, Hu just pointed it out. When I read the post in question my initial thoughts were pretty much what Hu thought only I didn't voice it. I'm not as well spoken as Hu so I'm glad he did it.
As for stuck in Tampa, the list isn't even out until Mon so no one can vote until Mon. You keep bumping this thread all day for the next 3 days and you'll end up having the opposite effect of what you're looking for. People will get annoyed and not vote in Shawn's favor. (JMO)
wow, you folks sure are brutal around here
We need more positive people in this world. Everyone always wants to see the worst in everything when the worst is not what was meant. I'll stop bumping the thread, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
No one on here even knows me, so there is no sense in taking personal pot shots at me. I'm just trying to help out an old friend. You all make it into something horrible.
We need more positive people in this world. Everyone always wants to see the worst in everything when the worst is not what was meant. I'll stop bumping the thread, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
No one on here even knows me, so there is no sense in taking personal pot shots at me. I'm just trying to help out an old friend. You all make it into something horrible.
Please tell me how this post has anything to do with class.
I truely don't think I said anything wrong.
Just trying to give you guys some info that I heard .
Trying to ruin my thread was classless when I worked so hard all year for this.
If you didn't like something I said you could of just PM'ed me and I would have appologized publicly.
But thanks for trying to hurt my chances of getting on the team.
Hope you have a great day.
I got the impression that you thought it was real funny that Earl was not on the list, and that you got a kick out of telling the Earl-fans the sad news. (You did say LOL when you wrote what you did)
Perhaps you didn't mean it like that, but it did look like that, imo.
A better way to put it would be something like "I am very sorry that Earl will not make this year's Mosconi Cup. I've heard that he will not be on the list that Matchroom will put up on their website. I hope that all of you who wanted to vote on Earl can vote for me instead."
If you had wrote something like that, I'm sure this thread would had lots of positive replies wishing you good luck.
JMHO
A timeline and some thoughts
Timeline:
This is a timeline with the gist of the messages in PM's and the forum message posted while PM'ing me. These are not actual PM's or quotes from PM's as I normally prefer to keep private messages private unless there is compelling reason not to.
5:20 Shawn sends me a PM apologizing for his post and saying he and Earl are good friends, he didn't mean to offend anyone, just informing everyone. He said he meant no disrespect in his post I quoted, and apologized for the misunderstanding. He asked for my vote.
5:38 (18 minutes after sending the apology) Shawn posts this forum message I am responding to that I only found about an hour later when I checked if Shawn had posted something similar to his PM.
5:45 I suggested in a reply that Shawn post his PM or something similar on the forum and I would reply to it with a neutral post at worst. Also told him that I would vote for him if he was the best man with a chance for winning late in the polling period but as I have already said I think Rodney Morris is probably the best man for the team.
5:48 (10 minutes after the above post in this thread) Shawn sent me a PM thanking me for my understanding.
I deliberately waited several hours to see if Shawn chose to edit or delete his last post that I am replying to here, or post again in a different tone. Since he hasn't I have to assume that he is happy with that message that he posted in total contrast to his PM's. Seems to make him not only a flip-flopper and subject to wild mood swings but someone that says one thing in private and a totally different thing in public.
A few possibilities:
Without digging too deep or making the usual assumptions about someone that has huge mood swings it seems that Shawn has one standard for himself and a different one for everyone else or at least me. It also seems that Shawn doesn't add any more stability to the Mosconi Cup team than Earl did and in my opinion doesn't have the firepower that Earl at his best does. It now seems that a vote for Shawn is a vote for a pale imitation of Earl. If we want to vote a player onto the team that can't stay stable for thirty minutes at a time I think we should have kept the better pool player.
I am now doing what Shawn accused me of and strongly recommending that we select a person with a more level temperament to fill the final slot on the team. I think the veteran Rodney Morris gives us the best chance of winning based on a past record of working and playing well with others on the team. Either Donny or Hillbilly could be a super wild card or could be overwhelmed by Mosconi Cup pressure. Those are my three picks although some of the others that I am less familiar with might be better picks. I'll make a decision after I see which ones can make a serious run at the spot.
Hu
Timeline:
This is a timeline with the gist of the messages in PM's and the forum message posted while PM'ing me. These are not actual PM's or quotes from PM's as I normally prefer to keep private messages private unless there is compelling reason not to.
5:20 Shawn sends me a PM apologizing for his post and saying he and Earl are good friends, he didn't mean to offend anyone, just informing everyone. He said he meant no disrespect in his post I quoted, and apologized for the misunderstanding. He asked for my vote.
5:38 (18 minutes after sending the apology) Shawn posts this forum message I am responding to that I only found about an hour later when I checked if Shawn had posted something similar to his PM.
5:45 I suggested in a reply that Shawn post his PM or something similar on the forum and I would reply to it with a neutral post at worst. Also told him that I would vote for him if he was the best man with a chance for winning late in the polling period but as I have already said I think Rodney Morris is probably the best man for the team.
5:48 (10 minutes after the above post in this thread) Shawn sent me a PM thanking me for my understanding.
I deliberately waited several hours to see if Shawn chose to edit or delete his last post that I am replying to here, or post again in a different tone. Since he hasn't I have to assume that he is happy with that message that he posted in total contrast to his PM's. Seems to make him not only a flip-flopper and subject to wild mood swings but someone that says one thing in private and a totally different thing in public.
A few possibilities:
Without digging too deep or making the usual assumptions about someone that has huge mood swings it seems that Shawn has one standard for himself and a different one for everyone else or at least me. It also seems that Shawn doesn't add any more stability to the Mosconi Cup team than Earl did and in my opinion doesn't have the firepower that Earl at his best does. It now seems that a vote for Shawn is a vote for a pale imitation of Earl. If we want to vote a player onto the team that can't stay stable for thirty minutes at a time I think we should have kept the better pool player.
I am now doing what Shawn accused me of and strongly recommending that we select a person with a more level temperament to fill the final slot on the team. I think the veteran Rodney Morris gives us the best chance of winning based on a past record of working and playing well with others on the team. Either Donny or Hillbilly could be a super wild card or could be overwhelmed by Mosconi Cup pressure. Those are my three picks although some of the others that I am less familiar with might be better picks. I'll make a decision after I see which ones can make a serious run at the spot.
Hu
I am pretty sure the line just went to around 100 - 1, but I am just guessing...lol.
Give the guy a break!
No disrespect Hu. I enjoy reading most of your posts that your kind enough to share with us, but it seems like you have too much time on your hands.
That's what's wrong with text messages, blogs, etc., nowadays. Often times, words can be misconstrued. I'm sure Shawn meant no harm with the post in question. I read it and IMO I don't see it as being classless. I do see how one could interprete it that way if that's the way they wanted to interprete it. Maybe Shawn isn't all that computer savvy, or his choice of words aren't to your liking, but at any rate, I think you should cut him some slack.
No disrespect Hu. I enjoy reading most of your posts that your kind enough to share with us, but it seems like you have too much time on your hands.
That's what's wrong with text messages, blogs, etc., nowadays. Often times, words can be misconstrued. I'm sure Shawn meant no harm with the post in question. I read it and IMO I don't see it as being classless. I do see how one could interprete it that way if that's the way they wanted to interprete it. Maybe Shawn isn't all that computer savvy, or his choice of words aren't to your liking, but at any rate, I think you should cut him some slack.
I don't think Shawn was being disrespectful in announcing Earl was not on the list, even if he was happy about that fact. Earl being on the list would have seriously hurt the chances of anyone else on the list, because he would have probably won the vote.
Shawn happens to be a PRO POOL PLAYER who would like the opportunity to represent his country at the MC, and he should be happy if something happens that betters his chances.
WHy can't a guy celebrate his own good fortune a little without being accused of disrespecting someone else for it.
Its not much different than shaking your opponents hand and saying good game after you break and run out on them is it?
You have my vote Shawn, based on your ranking, and your skills as a player. And if you run out, tellem good game.
Shawn happens to be a PRO POOL PLAYER who would like the opportunity to represent his country at the MC, and he should be happy if something happens that betters his chances.
WHy can't a guy celebrate his own good fortune a little without being accused of disrespecting someone else for it.
Its not much different than shaking your opponents hand and saying good game after you break and run out on them is it?
You have my vote Shawn, based on your ranking, and your skills as a player. And if you run out, tellem good game.
Preach on brother cooper.
I don't know Shawn well or know much about Shawn, but I've never heard mention of him being a malcontent. Conversely, he's seemed like a gentle giant. Anyway, I'm not going to read much into the flap that's gone on here so far.
If I were in contention for #5, I might do some crazy sh!t, who knows. What an incredible honor and privilege to be on the Cup!
Sidebar question: How much weight do we think this forum carries in the pick for #5? If we think we can "sway" a few hundred votes and we project - geez - I dunno - 25,000 votes, then this is likely all fodder. Thoughts?
If I were in contention for #5, I might do some crazy sh!t, who knows. What an incredible honor and privilege to be on the Cup!
Sidebar question: How much weight do we think this forum carries in the pick for #5? If we think we can "sway" a few hundred votes and we project - geez - I dunno - 25,000 votes, then this is likely all fodder. Thoughts?
I imagine this forum is probably a good indicator. How many people outside of this forum and forums like BD actually will know about the vote?
What if I told you I heard one M Cup hopeful has hired an internet marketing firm to send out @ 100,000 emails from a mailing list tailored to poker players, asking for their vote? The cost for this type of solicitation is minimal.
Who knows what's going on outside of our beloved forums...
Just a what if...
Sounds like spam