How much is too much for you to bet racing to 9?

[danquixote]

When I used to gamble a bit, $100 sets were no biggie, but that was my ceiling.....after a hundie, I got uncomfortable.....not embarrassed, that's just the extent of my cheapness

In my few trips to Vegas, my rule is $100 a day for gambling....whether it takes 8 hours or 10 minutes, when the hundie is gone, it's time to entertain myself otherwise......

I follow pretty much the same principle. I allocate money out of my budget for entertainment. It is not just my money I am spending, it belongs to the family. I can't imagine a family man gambling $500 + of the family budget unless they are independently wealthy. I have said this same thing to those who attempt to goad me into playing for higher stakes. I have had family men tell me that there was no difference between them buying a bass boat and gambling......the money is being spent on hobbies/entertainment. My usual reply is that the entire family benefits from, and enjoys the pleasures of boating. There are priorities in life, how you set them and why, is some measure of selflessness, or selfishness. Like another poster said.....If I was a Saudi prince, or had no other obligations to anybody but myself......things may be different. But untill I win the lottery or a rich uncle dies.....$20 is about my limit.....Dan

 

[sr 9ball]

don’t think everyone is playing to there ability. I suggested every time we win a game we get $5 from each person on our team and $10 on a table run. We are all about the same I’m trying to up everyone’s game on my pool team. We have a very talented team but I caliber players, so at the end of the year we will be all about even.
One guy on our team is just a gambler. He doesn’t try to hard in league. Myself, I need a little extra to get my game up there.
I brought it up to my team last night. Some guys were hell ya. Others said then they would need to scratch up $100 for every Thursday.
Our league is a very tough league. The dream team broke up.(was all master players). Now every team is pretty even.
Just saying we need to get everyone motivated. Every one of us will play $5 games all night so what’s the difference at league.

 

[Koop]

I follow pretty much the same principle. I allocate money out of my budget for entertainment. It is not just my money I am spending, it belongs to the family. I can't imagine a family man gambling $500 + of the family budget unless they are independently wealthy. I have said this same thing to those who attempt to goad me into playing for higher stakes. I have had family men tell me that there was no difference between them buying a bass boat and gambling......the money is being spent on hobbies/entertainment. My usual reply is that the entire family benefits from, and enjoys the pleasures of boating. There are priorities in life, how you set them and why, is some measure of selflessness, or selfishness. Like another poster said.....If I was a Saudi prince, or had no other obligations to anybody but myself......things may be different. But untill I win the lottery or a rich uncle dies.....$20 is about my limit.....Dan

Well said and I couldn't agree more.
Prior to kids I didn't mind gambling here and there but now, forget about it. I never gambled high, my game just isn't good enough but I don't gamble at all anymore.

 

[CreeDo]

Where was the option for over 1 dollar? I don't even feel comfortable at 20 bucks. If I ever become a gambler I'm definitely getting staked. The other day I had someone stake me for a 7 dollar tournament. True story.

 

[Underclocked]

It isn't the amount of money so much as the consequences of losing that money that adds to the shakes. I always figured that making a bet was like tossing money in the trash can so far as my financial situation was concerned. If tossing that amount of money in the trash can wasn't going to affect that financial situation in any serious way, then no problem. If it was, my rule was simple - don't do it.

That way, if you happen to win the first bet, you are now playing on the other guy's trash can money. He should have been following the same rule so don't sweat it - he'll live. If he wants to toss more in afterward, let him.

That isn't to say that I haven't "invested" a little money in that trash can from time to time but I never really liked the hustle. I much more enjoyed being "hustled"... that removed any misgivings about taking the other guy's money.

Guess I couldn't say how much it takes to make me sweat the money as I never tested the limits. I've played like a shaking beginner for $5 and like a seasoned gambler for $200 a rack. Too many variables involved to say that X amount makes me nervous.

All in the past for me though, I no longer gamble.

 

[Fatboy]

So, tell me. If you are playing a 5k set and you have 15k on you...20k more to your name, is it ant different
than playing a 5k set and you have 15k on you...with 1m+ to your name.

yes and no, i have been in both spots. and when your in action you dont think about the size of your bank roll, at least I never have. to me $100 is $100 no matter what. If you think otherwise you end up busted like all the pro althletes after they retire.

 

[cleary]

I dog it playing for table time. I just wanna win no matter what's on the line, if anything. I don't seem to play much different for more money. I'm an equal opportunity fish.

 

[Fast Lenny]

You just described me. A $10.00 entry tournament and I'm a zombie.
A $100 9-ball set and I'm O.K. (as long as it isn't mortgage money lol)

I will take the 8 playing 9 ball and you got 10-6 playing one pocket, $100 a set. :thumbup:

 

[MOJOE]

I like how you think Dan.. Great way of putting it too.. I personally love the game and don't mind a friendly wager but playing for big money does nothing for me. I am mostly a tourney player, never really been into gambling too much and I like it that way.. I work way to hard to give it away.. That's just me. YMMV

I follow pretty much the same principle. I allocate money out of my budget for entertainment. It is not just my money I am spending, it belongs to the family. I can't imagine a family man gambling $500 + of the family budget unless they are independently wealthy. I have said this same thing to those who attempt to goad me into playing for higher stakes. I have had family men tell me that there was no difference between them buying a bass boat and gambling......the money is being spent on hobbies/entertainment. My usual reply is that the entire family benefits from, and enjoys the pleasures of boating. There are priorities in life, how you set them and why, is some measure of selflessness, or selfishness. Like another poster said.....If I was a Saudi prince, or had no other obligations to anybody but myself......things may be different. But untill I win the lottery or a rich uncle dies.....$20 is about my limit.....Dan

 

[12310bch]

Watcha mean ,9-ball?

I will take the 8 playing 9 ball and you got 10-6 playing one pocket, $100 a set. :thumbup:

Will you take a check? Fast Lenny what are you barkin' 9-ball at me for? Our match is carved in slate and has been for months .I just can't seem to track you down. Your game is streaming almost every day. I know how good you play.

I'm a FIVE, Fast Lenny. I'm an old man. I can't see anymore . My hands shake. I have to go to the bathroom every ten minutes.

You want weight from me in 9-ball? I'll tell you what. I won't use my walker around the table. That should be worth a wild 8. Also you'll have to point which balls to shoot next cause I can't see too well. And we got to stream it so everybody in the world can see what a sport you are.

Lenny, I only met you once but your a helluva lot of fun. Thanks for taking the time to bullsht with me. You still owe me that 1-hole match though. Might be at K's next Sunday. I'm gettin' the itch.
:woot::woot::dance:

 

[markpatrick]

$100 sets, rather play an ahead set.

yes and no, i have been in both spots. and when your in action you dont think about the size of your bank roll, at least I never have. to me $100 is $100 no matter what. If you think otherwise you end up busted like all the pro althletes after they retire.

Rather play 9 ahead for $100 bucks. Usually carry 5 of them in my RH pocket just in case action comes up.

It seldom does as it is hard to get the 6 ball and the last 5 playing 10 ball.

Then there is always the guys who bum a ride with me. They play most people even. But $100 is cheap since we both want to make a $100 per set each.??

 

[jdxprs]

I basically see two things.

Bankroll management and advantage percentage. It would be stupid to bet your entire bankroll on one game when the player is only slightly worse than you.

If you are almost certainly going to win - lets say 90%-100% then I would bet about 60% of bankroll.

If you have a strong advantage - lets say 80% chance of winning overall, I would bet around 40% of my bankroll.

If you have a weak advantage - lets say 60% then I would bet about 10% of bank roll in order to cut down variance.

If its 50/50 then just make it low as you can... say 5% because these are just pointless in terms of profit... You might as well bet on a coin flip.

If its less than 50% mostly you shouldn't be playing. However, if you see it as an investment against a really good player you can learn from... that's ok, just keep it to the minimum amount.

I would bet always in accordance to my bankroll. Obviously you have to be tighter and assume more ploys the more you bet.

this may be the absolute WORST gambling advice i have ever seen in my life. no professional, or for that matter even experienced gambler would EVER bet these percentages of their bankroll on one event. 10% of your roll is considered an outragous amount in the opinion of most pro gamblers. the norm is 2 or 3 percent of your roll.

with the advice you just gave, it's only a matter of time before anyone who listens to you goes broke.

 

[Klink]

I have been there with $20 in my pockets and playing 10 a game. Its no problem playing for a hundred a set if you have at least that much in your pocket. There have been many times when i have walked into a bar with twenty dollars and walked out with a couple hundred.

 

[Geometry]

this may be the absolute WORST gambling advice i have ever seen in my life. no professional, or for that matter even experienced gambler would EVER bet these percentages of their bankroll on one event. 10% of your roll is considered an outragous amount in the opinion of most pro gamblers. the norm is 2 or 3 percent of your roll.

with the advice you just gave, it's only a matter of time before anyone who listens to you goes broke.

What experienced gambler wouldn't bet his entire bankroll if on a poker hand he had the nuts and was 100% to win?

This isn't poker where the professional only has a bit of an edge against the average player. At pool, you can have a absolutely massive edge.

I played someone once for money and I won with a score of 10-0. For weeks he kept on critiquing me that 'under pressure' I would not perform the same but the fact was I did not have to perform to beat this guy, all I needed to do was turn up. The guy couldn't even run three easy balls if he was given ball in hand the vast majority of the time.

Now given that situation where I know his ability level for sure and I feel 99% assured of victory. Betting 60% of the bankroll is not a terrible thing. Some people just want to give their money away and you should take as much of it as possible while you can because sure money opportunities like that don't come along very often.

 

[jdxprs]

What experienced gambler wouldn't bet his entire bankroll if on a poker hand he had the nuts and was 100% to win?

This isn't poker where the professional only has a bit of an edge against the average player. At pool, you can have a absolutely massive edge.

I played someone once for money and I won with a score of 10-0. For weeks he kept on critiquing me that 'under pressure' I would not perform the same but the fact was I did not have to perform to beat this guy, all I needed to do was turn up. The guy couldn't even run three easy balls if he was given ball in hand the vast majority of the time.

Now given that situation where I know his ability level for sure and I feel 99% assured of victory. Betting 60% of the bankroll is not a terrible thing. Some people just want to give their money away and you should take as much of it as possible while you can because sure money opportunities like that don't come along very often.

your poker analogy is a bad one. in that instance, there is nothing left to chance. no matter how much a favorite you consider yourself to be in pool, there is still the match to be played.

it's only going to take 1 or 2 times for you to realize you were the chump. if you want to put your money out there like that, good for you, and good luck. but like i said before, it won't be long before you go broke.

a fool and his money are soon parted.

 

[Geometry]

your poker analogy is a bad one. in that instance, there is nothing left to chance. no matter how much a favorite you consider yourself to be in pool, there is still the match to be played.

it's only going to take 1 or 2 times for you to realize you were the chump. if you want to put your money out there like that, good for you, and good luck. but like i said before, it won't be long before you go broke.

a fool and his money are soon parted.

Lets have a hypothetical situation here just to bring it down to your level of play. Imagine you were playing in a pool hall and every Friday you see an old grandma there. She plays 9 ball and every game seems to take 20 mins and watching her is the most pathetic thing you've ever seen in your life. Over the last year you've seen her week in and week out move balls around the table occasionally accidentally potting one. Its excruciating watching her because she's so bad. She also has a gambling problem and is rich.

Now with that scenario in mind, are you truthfully saying that you wouldn't consider putting 60% of your bankroll against this woman on a race to 10?

Unless of course your scared she might actually beat you

A fool is someone who doesn't bet or doesn't bet enough when they should do. Someone smart maximises his profits.

 

[jdxprs]

Lets have a hypothetical situation here just to bring it down to your level of play. Imagine you were playing in a pool hall and every Friday you see an old grandma there. She plays 9 ball and every game seems to take 20 mins and watching her is the most pathetic thing you've ever seen in your life. Over the last year you've seen her week in and week out move balls around the table occasionally accidentally potting one. Its excruciating watching her because she's so bad. She also has a gambling problem and is rich.

Now with that scenario in mind, are you truthfully saying that you wouldn't consider putting 60% of your bankroll against this woman on a race to 10?

Unless of course your scared she might actually beat you

A fool is someone who doesn't bet or doesn't bet enough when they should do. Someone smart maximises his profits.

my playing level? lol. you have no idea what speed i play.

you are the chump that the old grandma might be setting up. after you place the bet, she shows you her real game. think it doesnt happen?

speaking of betting, i bet you are a young guy who hasn't actually done much gambling. id say you are 25 or younger, and would be surprised if even that old.

 

[Geometry]

my playing level? lol. you have no idea what speed i play.

you are the chump that the old grandma might be setting up. after you place the bet, she shows you her real game. think it doesnt happen?

speaking of betting, i bet you are a young guy who hasn't actually done much gambling. id say you are 25 or younger, and would be surprised if even that old.

:boring2:

I'm older than your prediction and I have gambled plenty in my lifetime. I will bet on anything at the right price but generally find gambling boring overall nowadays. Better just to earn the money. Something that a lot of people here might want to try to do and stop day dreaming that they're Efren Reyes.

With regards to players playing worse than their ability, you should be alerted to that possibility from the players mechanics, cueing, rhythm, position routes, speed control, little pieces of knowledge...etc

As with our hypothetical. People don't go to a pool room for a year, push balls around the table and pay all that money for the pleasure just to get you to bet with them.

 

[jdxprs]

lol. ok. good luck to you. :deadhorse:

 

[12310bch]

Holyy moleyy

:boring2:

I'm older than your prediction and I have gambled plenty in my lifetime. I will bet on anything at the right price but generally find gambling boring overall nowadays. Better just to earn the money. Something that a lot of people here might want to try to do and stop day dreaming that they're Efren Reyes.

With regards to players playing worse than their ability, you should be alerted to that possibility from the players mechanics, cueing, rhythm, position routes, speed control, little pieces of knowledge...etc

As with our hypothetical. People don't go to a pool room for a year, push balls around the table and pay all that money for the pleasure just to get you to bet with them.

Geometry , I am deeply impressed and sorry I ever doubted your gambling skills. Please accept my apology. :barf: Good joss to you. George the Jump.:rotflmao1: