The KNOCK FROM MARS!

I never considered 99% of all the greatest players in the past and present were/are dirtbags! If the truth was known 100% has hustled! Some gamblers think some pool players don't gamble because they found out early on they dog it for the cash, or they once got outsmarted and it's left a bad taste in their mouth they can't seem to get out! Some only enjoy playing for fun and i can understand this.Some think gambling is just wrong and i respect that. I can say i would never try and steal a player from anyone,but i have seen many that play above average do it. Is there a thread on here where people give their opinions on hustling or their definition of what they consider hustling? Joey,didn't try to steal your thread.I have listened to you commentating and know your a seasoned player and know the answers to your thread. I just have to admit that i am shocked that someone on a pool forum would think anyone who has hustled was/is a dirtbag which as stated above would be most likely all the best players ever!
 
Just saving a friend from major medical bills.

You must say something JoeyA and look at it as you are indeed helping your friend because lets assume that he does not know any better thus you are doing him a favor. If it had been anyone else in say another pool room such ingnorance would leave your friend with a deep scar on his face so save him the hospital bill and let him know Nature is not as forgiving as you are.
 
You must say something JoeyA and look at it as you are indeed helping your friend because lets assume that he does not know any better thus you are doing him a favor. If it had been anyone else in say another pool room such ingnorance would leave your friend with a deep scar on his face so save him the hospital bill and let him know Nature is not as forgiving as you are.

I agree. I think you'd be doing the guy a favor by giving him the diplomatic approach. I remember starting out in pool and not even knowing what the term knocking meant. Then it took me a while to understand the nuances. I'm sure I put my foot in my mouth a time or two out of innocent ignorance.

Hey, people knock. I've asked people on the down low how someone else shoots and surely every player has as well. It's all about how you go about it. But telling a person while their playing an opponent that the other player has him by the balls is some seriously dangerous ground.

Let me ask you all this hypothetical question:

If you walk into a pool hall and your brother is playing some roadie named "Ceasar Morales" (you know what I mean, right?) for 4 figures, do you get into his ear?
 
There are times when I'm quite happy at not being a very good player.

This stuff is terribly confusing!

I have a hard enough time trying to make sure I'm playing the table correctly, much less worrying about all this ither stuff.

Best of luck with that you guys! :grin:
 
I agree. I think you'd be doing the guy a favor by giving him the diplomatic approach. I remember starting out in pool and not even knowing what the term knocking meant. Then it took me a while to understand the nuances. I'm sure I put my foot in my mouth a time or two out of innocent ignorance.

Hey, people knock. I've asked people on the down low how someone else shoots and surely every player has as well. It's all about how you go about it. But telling a person while their playing an opponent that the other player has him by the balls is some seriously dangerous ground.

Let me ask you all this hypothetical question:

If you walk into a pool hall and your brother is playing some roadie named "Ceasar Morales" (you know what I mean, right?) for 4 figures, do you get into his ear?


In my case it depends which one of my brothers it is!! :grin:
 
Originally Posted by mlalum
Joey, if you want to rob somebody so bad get a gun.

WTH?


Sorry Joey. Struck me as funny. First there's the dumping episode. Now you won't play xxx because that's too cheap for you. Then someone's knocking your action.

thought you were going a little gangsta on us. you always have seemed to represent what's right about pool. These couple things seem to the worst things about pool.

What does it matter what this guy did unless you're scraping for dough like some road gambler. Everyone gets an opinion and that's mine.


Maybe you didn't read the responses.

Just curious:

Do you gamble at pool?

Do you ever gamble at pool with complete strangers for money?

Do you think playing for $10 or $20 a game one pocket is a large sum of money?

Just curious...

JoeyA
 
Maybe you didn't read the responses. I read all the responses Joey. The hustlers and wanna be hustlers clearly believe knocking action is a bad thing. Basically because the pool hall life is you try to rob people when you can get away with. And anybody causing you to lose an opportunity to rob is a bad thing.

Just curious:

Do you gamble at pool? Yes. but not as a lifestyle.

Do you ever gamble at pool with complete strangers for money? No. It seems like a foolhardy endeavor for more than one reason.

Do you think playing for $10 or $20 a game one pocket is a large sum of money? No. But I also think it's a little exaggeration to say you rather lose $200 than win $40 in a cheap long game.

People are on this forum ruminating constantly about why pool has a rotten reputation and can't get any sponsor or media attention. I suggest some of it's because of the pool hall mindset. No one wants to be associated with it.

JoeyA
 
I've kinda learned this one the hard way.....usually, I like to build people up and tout their talents, so I'll comment on the positives of their game, especially with my friends....well, it's been pointed out that they have been trying to make a game with so and so and my comments are hurting their chances.....I don't really gamble anymore, and my intention is not to knock their action.....so I try not to be as vocal......

I now have stock answers to a couple of questions:

Perm, what will you give me playing 9-ball?
7 and the breaks

Perm, what will you give me playing 1pkt?
10-6

Other than my friends, I have never, ever had someone approach me with a fair game.....better players always want to play even and lesser players want a big spot.....gambling just ain't worth it for me - I play for pride, and skittles :D

Joey, sounds like it was unintentional, but he might not know what he did - talk to him, only way he will learn amigo....
 
Maybe you didn't read the responses. I read all the responses Joey. The hustlers and wanna be hustlers clearly believe knocking action is a bad thing. Basically because the pool hall life is you try to rob people when you can get away with. And anybody causing you to lose an opportunity to rob is a bad thing.

Just curious:

Do you gamble at pool? Yes. but not as a lifestyle.

Do you ever gamble at pool with complete strangers for money? No. It seems like a foolhardy endeavor for more than one reason.

Do you think playing for $10 or $20 a game one pocket is a large sum of money? No. But I also think it's a little exaggeration to say you rather lose $200 than win $40 in a cheap long game.

People are on this forum ruminating constantly about why pool has a rotten reputation and can't get any sponsor or media attention. I suggest some of it's because of the pool hall mindset. No one wants to be associated with it.

JoeyA

So, you're calling all of us who said Joey should say something hustlers?? I resent that. You're saying that what's wrong with pool is playing for money, that's not a question. You ain't got a clue!
Whether they are playing for money or not isn't the question here, the guy should not have interfered even if they were playing for nothing. I learned that you don't go up to someone who is obviously playing someone else and try to make a game with them yourself. If you think that's ok, you got a hell of a lot to learn.
 
yes i was wrong for saying hustlers. but you're wrong for saying that that guy was trying to steal joey's game. by the way the pool hall creed isnt' rocket science and not very hard to get a clue on. i grew up in a pool hall and it's painfully simple.
 
yes i was wrong for saying hustlers. but you're wrong for saying that that guy was trying to steal joey's game. by the way the pool hall creed isnt' rocket science and not very hard to get a clue on. i grew up in a pool hall and it's painfully simple.

I wouldn't have guessed that from your posts. And how do you know he wasn't trying to steal the game? Where I learned to play, that's how it was done, if allowed. And it usually wasn't.
 
Pushout, a regular in a pool hall will know absolutely when another regular is trying to knock his action. You should know that. Joey doesn't believe AT ALL that this guy was trying to knock his action. if this guy did this as an MO he already would have been evicted in one way or another. so just move on. this isn't a test case for knocking.
 
Pushout, a regular in a pool hall will know absolutely when another regular is trying to knock his action. You should know that. Joey doesn't believe AT ALL that this guy was trying to knock his action. if this guy did this as an MO he already would have been evicted in one way or another. so just move on. this isn't a test case for knocking.

Joey did not give any indication in his original post that the guy was not knocking his action. He said the guy knew him well, that's all.
Believe me, I know all about that crap.
 
Wow!!!!!!!!! i can't believe all the stuff i'm reading on here. since when did it become ok to knock peoples action?
 
Wow!!!!!!!!! i can't believe all the stuff i'm reading on here. since when did it become ok to knock peoples action?

Since the invention of cell phones & the internet !


The days of anybody flying under radar are gone forever !


Not that's ok to knock others action but it's become part of the game !


Old timers lived by the code...new ones..not so much !


Everyone wants to feel that they are in the know !


Bottom line...knock,knock knock..who's there ? Mr pool detective !
 
Since the invention of cell phones & the internet !


The days of anybody flying under radar are gone forever !


Not that's ok to knock others action but it's become part of the game !


Old timers lived by the code...new ones..not so much !


Everyone wants to feel that they are in the know !


Bottom line...knock,knock knock..who's there ? Mr pool detective !


Ha i guess you're right. i actually know a pool player that bought an i phone so he could check who he was playing before he played 'em.

poor guy's so dumb even when he found out they were champions and he didn't have a prayer he'd still play 'em
 
Joey, how is the fishing looking tomorrow???

I've got an early AM doctor's appointment. Afterwards I thought I'd drop by Buff's and see if you had any fish you needed me to take off your hook! :D :D :D

Hu
 
I play for pride, and skittles

SKITTLES?? You from mars buddy?? We here on AZB play for jelly beans. Period.

Crawfish, given the opportunity and proximity...cut this man as well.

(tried to auto rep a few posts in this thread...got stopped at the boarder at every attempt....great thread though)

I know in my heart I've done some accidental knockin without thinkin....I also know my game or gamble aint strong enough to receive to proper amount of knocks to properly offset those blunders. My knock ying and yang aint never gonna groove I suspect.
 
Maybe you didn't read the responses. I read all the responses Joey. The hustlers and wanna be hustlers clearly believe knocking action is a bad thing. Basically because the pool hall life is you try to rob people when you can get away with. And anybody causing you to lose an opportunity to rob is a bad thing.

Just curious:

Do you gamble at pool? Yes. but not as a lifestyle.

Do you ever gamble at pool with complete strangers for money? No. It seems like a foolhardy endeavor for more than one reason.

Do you think playing for $10 or $20 a game one pocket is a large sum of money? No. But I also think it's a little exaggeration to say you rather lose $200 than win $40 in a cheap long game.

People are on this forum ruminating constantly about why pool has a rotten reputation and can't get any sponsor or media attention. I suggest some of it's because of the pool hall mindset. No one wants to be associated with it.

JoeyA

M Lalum,

You know, I'm starting to develop a profile on you and it's not looking pretty.

You make some nasty insinuations about some of our fine forum members by calling them hustlers and wannabee hustlers simply because many have responded that I should tell the interloper he was wrong for interrupting our game and knowingly or unknowingly knocking my action.

You apparently look down your nose on people who like action and I think it is hipocritical of you to have that perspective and still admit that you gamble at pool.

Furthermore, you misquote me and put your own spin on what I said and while I can take criticism with the best of them, your spinning things isn't appreciated. I said, " I would rather win or lose $100 than to win or lose $40 after playing for two hours or so.", NOT that I would rather lose $200 than win $40 in a cheap long game.

And as far as you not wanting to play strangers because it is a "foolhardy endeavor", it just goes to show you furthermore as a hipocrite. You admit that you bet on pool on occasion, yet you are scared to play a stranger because it is a "foolhardy endeavor". (More looking down your nose at others who appreciate the risk and fun of gambling.)
I guess you prefer to measure your marks carefully before taking them down.

Anyway, I normally don't waste this much time addressing someone's post but you seem to be painting the forum members who posted in this thread with a wide unruly brush.

I won't have time to play word games with you so don't expect me to invest time in future response posts with you but I wanted to let you know how I view your posts.

JoeyA
 
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