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manwon said:
That is a nice repair job Ryan, while it is sad to see cues like this broken sometimes it happens and it is not always abuse like others in thread seem to think. While maple like that used in this cue is certainly beautiful and we all love it, it is also brittle and will fracture along it's grain if dropped the wrong way. I think this is why more cue makers are coring their cues, especially cues with highly figured woods that are not straight grain!!!:smile:

Again Ryan, that is really a great job on that repair, thanks for sharing.

Take Care
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Nowhere in the thread did anyone use the word abuse.
I don't know the facts of how that cue broke.
I refered to someone in my room that swung his stick and hit the ground.
Also said " No excuse for misuse" which is swinging your cue at anything besides balls..
Glad to see a Szamboti back together:smile:
Best,
Ken
 
manwon said:
In my opinion even with a perfect repair this cue should lose 50% of it's value if not more. If that had been my cue, I would have sent it back to Barry and had the entire forearm replaced, then the cue wouldn't lose any value because it would be 100% again.

JIMO
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Actually, the cue went to Barry first. I'm pretty sure there were factors considered like cost and turnaround time. Barry isn't taking new orders right now, or at least that's what I heard. Regardless, the customer just wanted the cue fixed so it was playable.

I do agree with your assessment; 50% is fair.
 
Great job, Ryan. I'm surprised it wasn't soaked in crocodile tears! Hope it'll still hit great for the owner. Costly happenstance.
 
mdavis228 said:
Great job, Ryan. I'm surprised it wasn't soaked in crocodile tears! Hope it'll still hit great for the owner. Costly happenstance.
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Costly from an investment standpoint but this customer doesn't want to sell it. I may have under charged him a little but there really wasn't much labor involved. I'm doing it for $100. Maybe should have been $150. Not a big deal as long as he is happy.
 
ratcues said:
Costly from an investment standpoint but this customer doesn't want to sell it. I may have under charged him a little but there really wasn't much labor involved. I'm doing it for $100. Maybe should have been $150. Not a big deal as long as he is happy.
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Ryan,
The repair You did looks great,
As Expected!
 
manwon said:
In my opinion even with a perfect repair this cue should lose 50% of it's value if not more. If that had been my cue, I would have sent it back to Barry and had the entire forearm replaced, then the cue wouldn't lose any value because it would be 100% again.

JIMO
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I agree I would have sent it to Barry for a new forearm.

IMO, it has little vaule with an obvious repaired forearm.

Each to their own.

Ken
 
HighEndCues said:
Nowhere in the thread did anyone use the word abuse.
I don't know the facts of how that cue broke.
I refered to someone in my room that swung his stick and hit the ground.
Also said " No excuse for misuse" which is swinging your cue at anything besides balls..
Glad to see a Szamboti back together:smile:
Best,
Ken
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Perhaps the word 'abuse' wasn't used. But swinging a stick around certainly would qualify as just that. No? I mean, misuse that results in a break and abuse are kinda the same thing.
 
Ken_4fun said:
I agree I would have sent it to Barry for a new forearm.

IMO, it has little vaule with an obvious repaired forearm.

Each to their own.

Ken
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Even at 50% the cue still has considerable value. Plus, its not just as easy as replacing the forearm as a repair. Its a complete rebuild that was needed. No cue maker in their right mind would only replace just the forearm. The only salvageable part is the butt sleeve. I'd make a new forearm, attach it to a new handle, and then use the old sleeve. It is not cost effective. Barry has a lot of new build orders and it would have taken quite a while to get to this. Also, my customer doesn't want to spend a small fortune. He's not going to flip it or sell it down the road. He wants his player back.
 
I hope he continues to get all the enjoyment from his player that was intended by the builder... and the repair person, too.
 
ratcues said:
Actually, the cue went to Barry first. I'm pretty sure there were factors considered like cost and turnaround time. Barry isn't taking new orders right now, or at least that's what I heard. Regardless, the customer just wanted the cue fixed so it was playable.

I do agree with your assessment; 50% is fair.
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My comments are in no way directed at your work, you work is great. But, do to the value of the cue I would have waited to have it repaired by Barry, to me it would not matter how long it would take.

Again great Job Ryan, and have a great day partner.
 
manwon said:
My comments are in no way directed at your work, you work is great. But, do to the value of the cue I would have waited to have it repaired by Barry, to me it would not matter how long it would take.

Again great Job Ryan, and have a great day partner.
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You'd wait TEN years?
 
None the less, I think you did a great job. One question though. Did the repair change the hit of the cue?
 
manwon said:
My comments are in no way directed at your work, you work is great. But, do to the value of the cue I would have waited to have it repaired by Barry, to me it would not matter how long it would take.

Again great Job Ryan, and have a great day partner.
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As I stated, Barry would build a new cue as opposed to fixing this one and it would cost near the same either way. Have him build a new cue and use this one in the meantime.
 
Here's an analogy; Say you wreck your car and the repair shop says we can fix your wrecked car but it will cost just as much as buying a new one. Which would you choose?
 
Brain71 said:
None the less, I think you did a great job. One question though. Did the repair change the hit of the cue?
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I'd be lying if I said it didn't have any effect on the hit....but I'd be willing to bet that 95% of people would not notice the difference. Besides, there isn't a way for me to test it since I got it after the fact and I didn't get the shafts with it. I'll know next week when the owner gets it back.
 
manwon said:
My comments are in no way directed at your work, you work is great. But, do to the value of the cue I would have waited to have it repaired by Barry, to me it would not matter how long it would take.

Again great Job Ryan, and have a great day partner.
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The guy probably wanted it back before his 401K matured for retirement.... Great repair.
 
JoeyInCali said:
You'd wait TEN years?
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Yes I would wait 10 years, even with the cue being professionaly repaired with a repaired forearm the cues value go's from around $4000 to less than $1000, in fact it is really only good as a player and not much else. So, considering the reduction in value I personally do not think that 10 years is out of line, I mean collector cues are for long term anyway.


Take care
 
manwon said:
Yes I would wait 10 years, even with the cue being professionaly repaired with a repaired forearm the cues value go's from around $4000 to less than $1000, in fact it is really only good as a player and not much else. So, considering the reduction in value I personally do not think that 10 years is out of line, I mean collector cues are for long term anyway.


Take care
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If he was so concerned about the resale value, he would not have whacked it. :eek:
 
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