what u think about Billiard bat aim trainer

I have never used one, but it looks like there would be some usefulness in this gadget. The 110% Risk Free 30-day Guarantee is a nice incentive to at least try it. But Robley, I've seen you shoot on live streams and you don't have a problem with your aim, imo. You shoot just fine. But if you feel like there is a device out there that can/will improve your game, I'd certainly try it. It's not like it's going to wreck your bank account, right?

When/if you try it, be sure to give us a review!!!

Maniac
 
The only dislike I didn't like about it was you have to move the product in order to shoot the shoot
 
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Quote from website: "The Billiard Aim Trainer (BAT)™ is the world’s first pool trainer that teaches the superior three-cut system of billiards" What is this system?:confused:
 
I have never used one, but it looks like there would be some usefulness in this gadget. The 110% Risk Free 30-day Guarantee is a nice incentive to at least try it. But Robley, I've seen you shoot on live streams and you don't have a problem with your aim, imo. You shoot just fine. But if you feel like there is a device out there that can/will improve your game, I'd certainly try it. It's not like it's going to wreck your bank account, right?

When/if you try it, be sure to give us a review!!!

Maniac

well thanks on complament an yes my Aim is just about perfect

but i would like too have the BAT for practice an when i give lessons an for my APA Team when they practice
 
Quote from website: "The Billiard Aim Trainer (BAT)™ is the world’s first pool trainer that teaches the superior three-cut system of billiards" What is this system?:confused:

The video link gives the beginner 3 points of aiming (for 3 different cut angles) from which all other cut angles can be derived with some adjustments. I am sure that the product discloses more than the short vid.

To answer your question...here is another variation.

From another thread:
"My name is Hal Houle. started playing in 1934. Began instructing pool =n
1945. Still doing it. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and
road money players.

3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar
tables. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail
banks, 2, 3, and 4 =ail banks, and double kiss banks.

All tables have a 2 to 1 ratio; 3 1/2 x 7, 4 x 8, 4 ½ x 9, 5 x 10, = x
12. Always twice as long as it is wide. table corners are 90 degree
angles. Laying a cue from side pocket to corner pocket forms a 45
degree angle. Laying a cue from side pocket to middle diamond =n same
end rail, forms a 30 degree angle. laying a cue from side pocket to
first diamond on the same end rail forms a 45 degree angle. 3 angles
total =0 degrees, the same angles formed by table corners.

CB relation, to OB relation, to POCKET relation is always 15, 30, or 45
degrees. simple solution. 2 places on CB to aim with; always in same
places. 3 places on OB to aim at, always in same places. 2 places on
CB, 3 places on OB; 2 x 3 =3D 6 pockets. Depending upon how CB and OB and
pocket lie in relation to one another, can pocket OB directly into
pocket or bank into any one of remaining = pockets. Reverse is true. If
relationship of CB to OB to POCKET can only be a bank, so be it.

No need to look at pocket or cushion while lining up place on CB at
place on OB. 3 angles. Only requirement is to recognize shot is 15, 30,
or 45 degree angle. = Recognizing 3 angles can be done instantly by
aiming one of 2 CB places at one of 3 OB places. Will be obvious which
OB place is correct. Any time one of 2 places on CB is aimed at one of
3 places on OB, OB must go to pocket. Choose correctly and OB will go
to chosen pocket. Professionals know this aiming system, but are a
closed fraternity; you are the enemy. Interested in where those places
are?

CB 2 places ; left edge, right edge.

OB 3 places ; center of left half, center of 0B, center of right half.
Halves and center face straight at edges of CB, not facing toward
pocket. If working on a work bench at home, there wouldn't be a pocket.
You'd line up edge of CB at target on OB without pocket influence.

Cutting left 15 degrees, aim CB left edge at center of OB left half.
Cutting left 30 degrees, aim CB left edge at OB center. Cutting left 45
degrees, aim CB left edge at center of OB right half.

Cutting right 15 degrees, aim CB right edge at center of OB right half.
Cutting right 30 degrees, aim CB right edge at OB center. Cutting right
45 degrees, aim CB right edge at center of OB left half.

Get down and aim your old way, you will be close to where you should be
aiming. Look to see (without changing your head or eye position) where
CB edge is aiming at OB. On every shot, the CB edge is always aiming at
those OB places.

System is for any shot; pocketing, single banks, double banks, double
kiss banks, multiple banks, caroms, combinations. The shot remaining is
extreme cut for any shots over 45 degrees. Aim CB edge at center = of
half of the half of 0B (¼). Don't let pocket influence you. Have a
friend hold ball tray between OB and pocket, so you can't see pocket.
You should've chosen 15, 30, or 45 degree angle before friend put ball
tray in place. Have fun, don't tell friend how you pocket OB without
seeing pocket. =/DIV>"
 
I think it's a matter of understanding yourself. This would not work for me as I am terrible with practices, but I know people who can repeat the same shot for hours until they get it down.

There are people who have calibrated the cuts on their shots down to the 1/8"...this might be good for them. I think if you aim by feel, this is a waste.
 
Don't forget to factor in collision induced throw. For example, if you shoot a spot shot from different angles you will need to hit a different point on the object ball to hit the same part of the pocket. As the angle increases you will have to start over cutting it. More so if the balls are dirty.

Pool is hard.
 
Don't forget to factor in collision induced throw. For example, if you shoot a spot shot from different angles you will need to hit a different point on the object ball to hit the same part of the pocket. As the angle increases you will have to start over cutting it. More so if the balls are dirty.

Pool is hard.

This is why I don't like the term "system" when describing aiming. If you have to factor in stuff (as you do in pool), it's not a true system. A system, imo, is where if certain shots are set up on a table, a robot could make them every time. The robot does not factor in such things as dirty balls, english needed, humidity, skid conditions, etc. This is where it is important to have a "feel" for certain shots. That said, I still believe that EVERY piece of knowledge acquired is invaluable, no matter if acquired through gadgets and/or hours and hours at the table.

Maniac
 
Don't forget to factor in collision induced throw. For example, if you shoot a spot shot from different angles you will need to hit a different point on the object ball to hit the same part of the pocket. As the angle increases you will have to start over cutting it. More so if the balls are dirty.

Pool is hard.

Pool is hard. That really says it all. There are so many things you need to know, practice, and be able to perform them at top level, compared to any other game or sport I can think of at the moment. Johnnyt
 
The video link gives the beginner 3 points of aiming (for 3 different cut angles) from which all other cut angles can be derived with some adjustments. I am sure that the product discloses more than the short vid.

To answer your question...here is another variation.

From another thread:
"My name is Hal Houle. started playing in 1934. Began instructing pool =n
1945. Still doing it. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and
road money players.

3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar
tables. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail
banks, 2, 3, and 4 =ail banks, and double kiss banks.

All tables have a 2 to 1 ratio; 3 1/2 x 7, 4 x 8, 4 ½ x 9, 5 x 10, = x
12. Always twice as long as it is wide. table corners are 90 degree
angles. Laying a cue from side pocket to corner pocket forms a 45
degree angle. Laying a cue from side pocket to middle diamond =n same
end rail, forms a 30 degree angle. laying a cue from side pocket to
first diamond on the same end rail forms a 45 degree angle. 3 angles
total =0 degrees, the same angles formed by table corners.

CB relation, to OB relation, to POCKET relation is always 15, 30, or 45
degrees. simple solution. 2 places on CB to aim with; always in same
places. 3 places on OB to aim at, always in same places. 2 places on
CB, 3 places on OB; 2 x 3 =3D 6 pockets. Depending upon how CB and OB and
pocket lie in relation to one another, can pocket OB directly into
pocket or bank into any one of remaining = pockets. Reverse is true. If
relationship of CB to OB to POCKET can only be a bank, so be it.

No need to look at pocket or cushion while lining up place on CB at
place on OB. 3 angles. Only requirement is to recognize shot is 15, 30,
or 45 degree angle. = Recognizing 3 angles can be done instantly by
aiming one of 2 CB places at one of 3 OB places. Will be obvious which
OB place is correct. Any time one of 2 places on CB is aimed at one of
3 places on OB, OB must go to pocket. Choose correctly and OB will go
to chosen pocket. Professionals know this aiming system, but are a
closed fraternity; you are the enemy. Interested in where those places
are?

CB 2 places ; left edge, right edge.

OB 3 places ; center of left half, center of 0B, center of right half.
Halves and center face straight at edges of CB, not facing toward
pocket. If working on a work bench at home, there wouldn't be a pocket.
You'd line up edge of CB at target on OB without pocket influence.

Cutting left 15 degrees, aim CB left edge at center of OB left half.
Cutting left 30 degrees, aim CB left edge at OB center. Cutting left 45
degrees, aim CB left edge at center of OB right half.

Cutting right 15 degrees, aim CB right edge at center of OB right half.
Cutting right 30 degrees, aim CB right edge at OB center. Cutting right
45 degrees, aim CB right edge at center of OB left half.

Get down and aim your old way, you will be close to where you should be
aiming. Look to see (without changing your head or eye position) where
CB edge is aiming at OB. On every shot, the CB edge is always aiming at
those OB places.

System is for any shot; pocketing, single banks, double banks, double
kiss banks, multiple banks, caroms, combinations. The shot remaining is
extreme cut for any shots over 45 degrees. Aim CB edge at center = of
half of the half of 0B (¼). Don't let pocket influence you. Have a
friend hold ball tray between OB and pocket, so you can't see pocket.
You should've chosen 15, 30, or 45 degree angle before friend put ball
tray in place. Have fun, don't tell friend how you pocket OB without
seeing pocket. =/DIV>"

:speechless: :scratchhead: :banghead: :rolleyes: :shrug: :lmao: :thud:
 
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