Best player to not have won a major title?

I don't think Dennis Hatch won any of the major titles mentioned. Probably because he didn't enter that many.

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Hi, Tom! :) Dennis Hatch won the Pro Event at the Super Billiards Expo a few years ago, defeating Mike Davis. It was a nail-biter. Dennis got the most beautiful trophy I've ever seen. He got emotional accepting the trophy. It was a tear-jerker for a sentimental railbird like me -- :sad: -- but they were happy tears. :D
 
If you ask him (Parica), he has a "World Title" - not that I doubt him, but I've never found record of it. Also, he has won a ton of big tournaments for sure! I witnessed him beating up Bustamante in the finals of one some years ago here in L.A.

See? Thats the thing, Cor. Just about anyone you ask would say "I'm sure Jose did win a least one...", but there isn't any record of it (like you said).

Just to reiterate, we are strictly talking about "major titles", even though there can be a lil bit of gray.


Eric >has a lil bit of gray
 
I don't think Dennis Hatch won any of the major titles mentioned. Probably because he didn't enter that many.

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Didn't Dennis win the Pro Tour Championship a few years back? I remember he played Nick Varner in the semi-final, and then Efren in the final. I think it was either 92 or 93 - IIRC, the finals were held at the Meadowlands in NJ. Back then it was considered a major title. I saw on another site that they listed the event as being held in Nashville.

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If you ask him (Parica), he has a "World Title" - not that I doubt him, but I've never found record of it. Also, he has won a ton of big tournaments for sure! I witnessed him beating up Bustamante in the finals of one some years ago here in L.A.

I believe he won the world rotation championship one time.
He did win Player of the Year after winning so much during the dying days of PBT.
He of course won that LA Open against Busta.
 
Has Rempe won a major 14.1 title?

I guess it's how one define's "major." In the '70s and '80s, so-called "majors" were a wee bit different than they are today in the year 2010. :)

Here's a list of Jim "King James" Rempe's wins:

1971 Invitational Nine-Ball Arlington, Virginia
1971 U.S. Masters 14.1 Arlington, Virginia
1971 Hustlers World One-Pocket Johnson City, Illinois
1972 U.S. Master's 14.1 Arlington, Virginia
1972 World's Nine-Ball Dayton, Ohio
1972 Maine State 14.1 Scarborough, Maine
1972 Minnesota Fats Classic 14.1 and All-Around Arlington, Virginia
1973 Ohio Open Nine-Ball Cleveland, Ohio
1973 New York State 14.1 Newburgh, New York
1973 World's Nine-Ball Dayton, Ohio
1975 World Nine-ball Association Tournament
1975 U.S. Master's 14.1 Arlington, Virginia
1975 Eastern Invitational Nine-Ball Elizabeth, New Jersey
1975 World's Nine-Ball Burlington, Iowa
1976 Master's Invitational All-Around Norfolk, Virginia
1976 Indiana Open 14.1 South Bend, Indiana
1976 International Brunswick Open Rotation Tokyo, Japan
1977 Mako World Nine-Ball Association Invitational Tournament, Irvine, California
1977 Q-Masters Invitational All Around Norfolk, Virginia
1977 Miami Open Nine-Ball Miami, Florida
1977 International World Invitational Nine-Ball and 14.4 Grand Championship Osaka, Japan
1990 Classic Invitational Straight Pool Championship, Rochester, New York
1998 World Pool League
1999 World Pool League
 
Though, not the best anymore, you gotta mention Jose Parica in this thread.


Eric

Parica has won major titles. I'd say from back in the day, Clem Metz, Vernon Elliott, Gary Spaeth, Keith McCready, Jack Cooney, and several Filipinos.
 
Some players I can think of off hand are Dennis Hatch, Yang, Rodolfo Luat
 
Some players I can think of off hand are Dennis Hatch, Yang, Rodolfo Luat

Luat won a PBT World 9-Ball one time ( I think 1996 against Varner after losing to Archer the year before ).
That was the only PBT title Luat won.

Ernesto Dominguez is pretty good too for not winning a major title.
So is Morro Paez.
 
You're right, Joey, and CrownCityCorey is right, too! :grin-square:

Here's the BC Open Keith won -- not to be confused with BCA Open. It paid out $25,000 first place. This was the largest first-place money payout at that time. It was a pretty weighty field. :eek:

There were a bunch of golf pros there at the venue, as well as some rock and roll star -- [can't remember name now] -- and all of them partied to the wee hours of the morning celebrating Keith's win.

The closest Keith came to a major was in 2003 when he came in third place at the U.S. Open Nine-Ball Championship. If they had played the finals the night before, he would have won it. He was on fire. The night before the semi-final matches went long, until 4 a.m., trying to make up for lost time due to Tropical Storm Isabel. The semi-finals began sharply at noon. Keith just couldn't catch a gear the next day. :sorry:

I had never seen him so happy as when he came close to the U.S Open title. We had people calling us on our cell phone from around the country sending their good wishes for him to do well. It just wasn't in the stars, as they say!

Here's the BC Open roster Keith won in 1985, the same year as the filming of "The Color of Money." It was a good year for Keith! :wink:


Pretty stout field that Keith went thru..Some real notables that didn't even cash...Keith musta hit a gear .:thumbup:
 
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Kuo and Yang sounds right to me, but two others that come to mind are Marcus Chamat and Antonio Lining.

Also, I kinda felt like Bustamante got off the career long schneid from the game's most prestigious titles when he won the 2008 Derby City Master of the Table title. This, in my opinion, is one of the most difficult titles to win in our sport and, if it is not yet, should be one of the most important measuring sticks for excellence in our sport.
Its amazing how this has been over looked by most everyone. :confused:
 
I guess it's how one define's "major." In the '70s and '80s, so-called "majors" were a wee bit different than they are today in the year 2010. :)

Here's a list of Jim "King James" Rempe's wins:

1971 Invitational Nine-Ball Arlington, Virginia
1971 U.S. Masters 14.1 Arlington, Virginia
1971 Hustlers World One-Pocket Johnson City, Illinois
1972 U.S. Master's 14.1 Arlington, Virginia
1972 World's Nine-Ball Dayton, Ohio
1972 Maine State 14.1 Scarborough, Maine
1972 Minnesota Fats Classic 14.1 and All-Around Arlington, Virginia
1973 Ohio Open Nine-Ball Cleveland, Ohio
1973 New York State 14.1 Newburgh, New York
1973 World's Nine-Ball Dayton, Ohio
1975 World Nine-ball Association Tournament
1975 U.S. Master's 14.1 Arlington, Virginia
1975 Eastern Invitational Nine-Ball Elizabeth, New Jersey
1975 World's Nine-Ball Burlington, Iowa
1976 Master's Invitational All-Around Norfolk, Virginia
1976 Indiana Open 14.1 South Bend, Indiana
1976 International Brunswick Open Rotation Tokyo, Japan
1977 Mako World Nine-Ball Association Invitational Tournament, Irvine, California
1977 Q-Masters Invitational All Around Norfolk, Virginia
1977 Miami Open Nine-Ball Miami, Florida
1977 International World Invitational Nine-Ball and 14.4 Grand Championship Osaka, Japan
1990 Classic Invitational Straight Pool Championship, Rochester, New York
1998 World Pool League
1999 World Pool League

I probably mean the U.S. Open 14.1 which is not on your list of tourneys won by Rempe, and is the championship that includes Sigel, Miz, Mosconi, Lassiter, et al.
 
Marlon Manalo gotta be included in this debate. From getting 2nd place in IPT (is that a major?) to high-place finishes in several world championships.

2006 IPT North American Open 8-Ball Championship, Runner-up
2005 WPC Second Runner-up
2004 World 8-Ball Championships, Runner-up
2004 WPC, 5th Place
2004 World Pool Masters, 9th Place
 
Didn't Dennis win the Pro Tour Championship a few years back? I remember he played Nick Varner in the semi-final, and then Efren in the final. I think it was either 92 or 93 - IIRC, the finals were held at the Meadowlands in NJ. Back then it was considered a major title. I saw on another site that they listed the event as being held in Nashville.

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You are correct he beat Efren in 1993 for the win.
 
Parica

I'm sorry but this title belongs Jose Parica. One of the most feared player in his heyday.
 
I probably mean the U.S. Open 14.1 which is not on your list of tourneys won by Rempe, and is the championship that includes Sigel, Miz, Mosconi, Lassiter, et al.

The U.S. Masters 14.1 in Arlington that Rempe won 3 times is just as good as a U.S. Open win, it had the same field of players. Rempe was the man in the early 70's, winning everything in sight.
 
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